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  • Liquidrob
    Izzy is a bum
    • Feb 2009
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    #31
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EMvAQSEhCI&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Mirko Crocop :: Forever - by logangee[/ame]
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    • Steel Mamba
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      • Nov 2008
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      #32
      When fighters get old they lose their speed, stamina, power, etc. The physical attributes start to diminish. You don't lose your technical savvy at 35 years old. Let's look at some actual fights instead of HL reels that don't prove anything. IMO if you go back and look at his old fights you'll find that his technical display is about the same as we saw last night. The difference is Dos Santos is not Yoshido, Minowa, Randleman, Coleman, etc.

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      • Liquidrob
        Izzy is a bum
        • Feb 2009
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        #33
        Originally posted by Steel Mamba
        When fighters get old they lose their speed, stamina, power, etc. The physical attributes start to diminish. You don't lose your technical savvy at 35 years old. Let's look at some actual fights instead of HL reels that don't prove anything. IMO if you go back and look at his old fights you'll find that his technical display is about the same as we saw last night. The difference is Dos Santos is not Yoshido, Minowa, Randleman, Coleman, etc.
        lol, please, Mirko has not been into fighting for a while and got the big payday from the UFC when he came over

        Mike Tyson lost his technique, started just looking for the KO, etc...it happens
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        • Steel Mamba
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          • Nov 2008
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          #34
          Originally posted by Liquidrob
          lol, please, Mirko has not been into fighting for a while and got the big payday from the UFC when he came over

          Mike Tyson lost his technique, started just looking for the KO, etc...it happens

          Watch his old fights, you'll see. Also, remember what this all started over - a recent interview that claimed Cro Cop was an elite striker. This wasn't about what Cro Cop did in Pride which I'm sure Mayweather is probably unaware of.

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          • Liquidrob
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            • Feb 2009
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            #35
            Originally posted by Steel Mamba
            Watch his old fights, you'll see. Also, remember what this all started over - a recent interview that claimed Cro Cop was an elite striker. This wasn't about what Cro Cop did in Pride which I'm sure Mayweather is probably unaware of.
            of course I watched his old fights, cro cop was an elite striker, I dont know who wouldnt say he wasnt besides you

            well, you think Sherk is one of the best strikers in MMA...
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            • Liquidrob
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              #36
              just go watch his fights against Nog, Herring, Aleks, Barnett, Wand, Igor, etc...
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              • Steel Mamba
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                • Nov 2008
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                #37
                Originally posted by Liquidrob
                of course I watched his old fights, cro cop was an elite striker, I dont know who wouldnt say he wasnt besides you

                well, you think Sherk is one of the best strikers in MMA...
                Rewatch them and you'll see my point that his technical style is still the same. You guys just get enamoured by KO's and think that automatically means someone is a technical striker. Any technical striker that Mirko has fought he has struggled against.

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                • Liquidrob
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                  #38
                  so you think a guy who only had great kicks could beat the guys Cro Cop beat?

                  Come on man, you are grasping, look at his fights, his record, the caliber of fighters he beat, etc..
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                  • Steel Mamba
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                    • Nov 2008
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Liquidrob
                    just go watch his fights against Nog, Herring, Aleks, Barnett, Wand, Igor, etc...
                    really only one of those guys is a solid technical striker. Maybe one and a half. Herring went in against Mirko charging at him and swinging like a mad-man, please. Bad examples.

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                    • Steel Mamba
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                      • Nov 2008
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Liquidrob
                      so you think a guy who only had great kicks could beat the guys Cro Cop beat?

                      Come on man, you are grasping, look at his fights, his record, the caliber of fighters he beat, etc..
                      Wand is not even a true HW, his other notable wins is against Barnett and Herring, again Herring fought him horribly.

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                      • Steel Mamba
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                        • Nov 2008
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                        #41
                        Shit Brock Lesnar has more notable wins than Cro Cop does.

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                        • SHOGUN
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                          • Jul 2009
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Steel Mamba
                          Shit Brock Lesnar has more notable wins than Cro Cop does.

                           
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                          • Steel Mamba
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                            • Nov 2008
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                            #43
                            lol. I know everyone has fallen in love with the personality and the aura that surrounds Cro Cop, but put that aside and just look at the facts. Frank Mir and Randy Couture has more talent than everyone Cro Cop has beaten aside from Barnett. Now tell me that's not true.
                            Last edited by Steel Mamba; 09-20-2009, 05:19 PM.

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                            • Steel Mamba
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                              • Nov 2008
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                              #44
                              Why is it not worth it? That's the same thing I heard when I was arguing that Fedor is not the P4P best, caught shit for it, but now many months later a lot of people actually agree with that assessment. I say what I feel is true regardless of what the status quo is and everything I've said has some sense of creditability to it. People just don't want to buy into it at first because they don't want to feel as if they're dethroning any of the legends of this sport.

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                              • Liquidrob
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                                • Feb 2009
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                                #45
                                I love how you say 'that was K-1, I just care what he does in MMA', you know that if PBF, Pac, hell any big time boxer fought 1 fight in MMA against Average shaved head tattoo MMA scrub you would call them the best striker in MMA

                                you just look at a guys boxing, like I said, you call Sherk one of the best strikers in MMA, lol @ that
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