Fedor Emelianenko is the most exciting HW since Mike Tyson

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  • Liquidrob
    Izzy is a bum
    • Feb 2009
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    Fedor Emelianenko is the most exciting HW since Mike Tyson

    Name another HW since Mike Tyson in combat sports that brings the excitement, dominance and finishing ability like Fedor, the HW division has always been the go to division in boxing and MMA, Fedor over the last 8 years has taken it to that Mike Tyson type level but still keeps his head on straight and wont bite someone's ear off, appreciate what you are seeing, finally the US fan (non-hardcore) has seen what this guy can do




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    Last edited by Liquidrob; 11-10-2009, 10:27 PM.
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  • JeremyHight
    I wish I was Scrubs
    • Feb 2009
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    #2
    ... he's no Tyson. Like it or not, Tyson put fear into everyone in the nation. Not only did he go out and win, he demolished people. Is Fedor great? Yes, but Tyson's level of domination will probably never be seen again in any sport.

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    • Liquidrob
      Izzy is a bum
      • Feb 2009
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      #3
      Originally posted by JeremyHight
      ... he's no Tyson. Like it or not, Tyson put fear into everyone in the nation. Not only did he go out and win, he demolished people. Is Fedor great? Yes, but Tyson's level of domination will probably never be seen again in any sport.
      Tyson barely fought anyone that was great

      Nog > Any of Tysons victims

      plus Fedor can not be rattled, Mike can and was
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      • EmpireWF
        Giants in the Super Bowl
        • Mar 2009
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        #4
        It's not like Fedor has recently fought a bevy of elite heavyweights. I'll give you Arlovski. I'll argue against Sylvia. Besides them, you can go back to Cro Cop in 2005 before Fedor fought a legit top heavyweight.

        Wasn't the light heavyweight division the money division in MMA in this decade?


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        • JeremyHight
          I wish I was Scrubs
          • Feb 2009
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          #5
          Originally posted by Liquidrob
          Tyson barely fought anyone that was great

          Nog > Any of Tysons victims

          plus Fedor can not be rattled, Mike can and was
          I'm not saying Tyson was beating great or even good heavyweights, I'm saying Tyson went out there and absolutely destroyed those he was put against. It wasn't like he just beat someone or it went to decision a lot of the time, he looked almost untouchable for his first 37 fights.

          Fedor is great, dominating, and arguably the best MMA fighter of all time, Tyson was a phenomenon that was bigger than the sport itself.

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          • Liquidrob
            Izzy is a bum
            • Feb 2009
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            #6
            Originally posted by EmpireWF
            It's not like Fedor has recently fought a bevy of elite heavyweights. I'll give you Arlovski. I'll argue against Sylvia. Besides them, you can go back to Cro Cop in 2005 before Fedor fought a legit top heavyweight.

            Wasn't the light heavyweight division the money division in MMA in this decade?
            Nog X 2
            Cro Cop

            are better wins than Tyson ever had, Tyson best oppanants were Lennox and Evander and lost to both of them, Larry Holmes was over the hill, Razor Ruddock was pretty good, who else? Trevor Berbick? Spinks was already done and a small HW

            also, the best age of MMA in this decade was probably when the Pride HWs were around, Fedor, Nog, Cro Cop, Barnett, etc...
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            • Liquidrob
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              • Feb 2009
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              #7
              Originally posted by JeremyHight
              I'm not saying Tyson was beating great or even good heavyweights, I'm saying Tyson went out there and absolutely destroyed those he was put against. It wasn't like he just beat someone or it went to decision a lot of the time, he looked almost untouchable for his first 37 fights.

              Fedor is great, dominating, and arguably the best MMA fighter of all time, Tyson was a phenomenon that was bigger than the sport itself.
              The thread was mostly about being 'exciting', I threw in dominance because I didnt want people to name guys who are exciting but lose alot, Fedor has been the total package, tough to be exciting and dominant, its a rare quality and for HW it seems to be even more rare
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              • SHOGUN
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                • Jul 2009
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                #8
                You could argue that Cro Cop was the most exciting HW during his PRIDE run.....

                 
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                • EmpireWF
                  Giants in the Super Bowl
                  • Mar 2009
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                  #9
                  Well that doesn't say much for Tyson. Big Nog was a clear #2 heavyweight throughout the decade. During Tyson's run, the heavyweight division pretty much was dead despite Holyfield and Lewis. (I'm talking 90s)



                  Originally posted by Shogun
                  You could argue that Cro Cop was the most exciting HW during his PRIDE run.....
                  I remember reading how PRIDE considered Cro Cop their best heavyweight until Fedor beat him.

                  Cro Cop was definitely a bigger star than Fedor during their PRIDE runs.
                  Last edited by EmpireWF; 11-10-2009, 10:58 PM.


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                  • Liquidrob
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                    • Feb 2009
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Shogun
                    You could argue that Cro Cop was the most exciting HW during his PRIDE run.....
                    It was like a good 3 year run, plus he lost to Nog, Kevin, Fedor and Hunt during that time, no where near Fedors run
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                    • Steel Mamba
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                      #11
                      So what are we talking about then, excitement or dominance cause you can't really combine the two. I think Tyson was way more exciting, but that's subjective and everyone already knows I'm a big fan of striking/boxing. As far as dominance goes at least Tyson fought the best the sport has to offer, Fedor just hasn't done that and we're not sure if he will. Either way MMAs HW division has always been kinda weak as well, even in the Pride days the HWs were never better than the MWs/LHW division. Boxings wasn't great either, but again Tyson fought who they had to offer and it's impossible to compare people in two different sports, is Lebron better than John Elway?

                      Fedor hasn't fought Randy Couture when he was in his prime, Barnett, Mir, Carwin, and even Brock now as well. Really for as dominant as Fedor has been guys like GSP and Silva have still done a better job of cleaning out their division than Fedor has.
                      Last edited by Steel Mamba; 11-11-2009, 12:10 AM.

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                      • SHOGUN
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Steel Mamba
                        Fedor hasn't fought Randy Couture when he was in his prime, Barnett, Mir, Carwin, and even Brock now as well. Really for as dominant as Fedor has been guys like GSP and Silva have down a better job of cleaning out their division than Fedor has.

                         
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                        • Steel Mamba
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                          #13
                          What's funny about Mir and Shane Carwin? Both guys are top 10 HWs.

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                          • Liquidrob
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Steel Mamba
                            So what are we talking about then, excitement or dominance cause you can't really combine the two. I think Tyson was way more exciting, but that's subjective and everyone already knows I'm a big fan of striking/boxing. As far as dominance goes at least Tyson fought the best the sport has to offer, Fedor just hasn't done that and we're not sure if he will. Either way MMAs HW division has always been kinda weak as well, even in the Pride days the HWs were never better than the MWs/LHW division. Boxings wasn't great either, but again Tyson fought who they had to offer and it's impossible to compare people in two different sports, is Lebron better than John Elway?

                            Fedor hasn't fought Randy Couture when he was in his prime, Barnett, Mir, Carwin, and even Brock now as well. Really for as dominant as Fedor has been guys like GSP and Silva have still done a better job of cleaning out their division than Fedor has.
                            Both fool, exactly what I said, name another HW that had the level of excitment and dominance that Fedor has had since Mike Tyson, of course you can combine them, if Tyson decisioned everyone or was boring he wouldnt be thought of like he is/was

                            Lennox Lewis was dominant but not what you would call 'exciting', Vlad is now the same way, No MMA HW has been like Fedor either, maybe Igor but he is below Fedor

                            Its not even comparing, I am making statement, this is not saying who is better, but name me a HW in boxing or MMA since Mike Tyson to bring this level of excitment and dominance to combat sports

                            lol @ hasnt fought the best the sport has offered, he only fought the 2nd greatest HW ever in Nog and beat him twice, Cro Cop is top guy also, Randy, lol, he has been KO'd out the HW division, the LHW division and HW division again

                            Frank Mir? If he didnt sub a 1-0 Brock and fight Nog with a stpah infection he would be considered washed up

                            Why are you even bringing up GSP and And1? The thread title and statement clearly says HW
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                            • Steel Mamba
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Liquidrob
                              Both fool, exactly what I said, name another HW that had the level of excitment and dominance that Fedor has had since Mike Tyson

                              Lennox Lewis was dominant but not what you would call 'exciting', Vlad is now the same way, No MMA HW has been like Fedor either, maybe Igor but he is below Fedor

                              Its not even comparing, I am making statement, this is not saying who is better, but name me a HW in boxing or MMA since Mike Tyson to bring this level of excitment and dominance to combat sports

                              lol @ hasnt fought the best the sport has offered, he only fought the 2nd greatest HW ever in Nog and beat him twice, Cro Cop is top guy also, Randy, lol, he has been KO'd out the HW division, the LHW division and HW division again

                              Frank Mir? If he didnt sub a 1-0 Brock and fight Mir with a stpah infection he would be considered washed up

                              Why are you even bringing up GSP and And1? The thread title and statement clearly says HW
                              As far as comparing I mean it's hard to say that Nog is better than any HW that Tyson has beat. Regardless I want to see Fedor clean out his division first, Tyson mopped the floor with just about every HW that there was when he was in his prime. Sure Fedor should beat all those guys I mentioned, but he still has to get in there and do it before I say he's more dominant than Tyson was.

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