Miguel Torres Fires His Camp, starts new

[calgaryballer]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Torres-fires-his-camp-and-hits-the-road?urn=mma,215582

"I've used the same training partners for 11 or 12 years, and I haven't brought any of them back for this fight," Torres told the Las Vegas Sun. "What ended up happening was — I wasn't getting cocky, they got cocky. They would say, 'Oh, you're going to kill this guy. He's only got seven fights.'"

[EmpireWF]

They say the great fighters need to lose to become even better.

Of course, Fedor seems to be the exception.

[SHOGUN]

Will be great to watch him again w/ new tools to play with.

[SHOGUN]

thats what happenes when you fight no one lol.

[Liquidrob]

thats what happenes when you fight no one lol.

[trojan49er]

Wake me up when you get off Dana White's balls. The UFC doesn't exactly run the table on HWs. Their group of fighters is improving, but there are several top 1 HWs outside the UFC. And, for the record, Fedor already mauled one of the top 3 UFC HWs in Nogueira 3 times

[Liquidrob]

Frank Mir scored the Machida/Shogun fight 50/45 for Torres

[EmpireWF]

wake me up when Fedor's vagina isn't wet and decided to step into the cage with Lesner or some other UFC HW's.

umm.....

Fedor beat Big Nog twice.

Fedor beat Tim Sylvia.

Fedor beat Andrei Arlovski.

[EmpireWF]

I'll give u Nog, but Sylvia and Arlovski both are awful. Neither would be in the top 8 HW's even in there prime right now in the UFC HW's. They would be struggling to even get on Fight Nights.

You said UFC heavyweights.

Both Sylvia and Arlovski were not shit until after Fedor kicked their ass.

Arlovski knocked out five of his previous opponents leading up to the Fedor fight.

Sylvia was coming off a tough loss to Big Nog.

Don't shit on guys after the fact.

[CrimsonGhost56]

Frank Mir scored the Machida/Shogun fight 50/45 for Torres

lol idk what it is with Mir but hes got some serious man crush on Torres.

[EmpireWF]

did u just crawl out under Fedor's nut sack? I mean serious Tim Sylvia is the worst HW in the history of MMA. And AA's chin is built with glass. Tell me what top 10's HW in UFC they would beat?

I assume you just don't understand what we're saying.

When Arlovski and Sylvia fought Fedor, they were both considered top 10 heavyweights. Not until Fedor beat them both did they drop from the top 10.

[SHOGUN]

did u just crawl out under Fedor's nut sack? I mean serious Tim Sylvia is the worst HW in the history of MMA. And AA's chin is built with glass. Tell me what top 10's HW in UFC they would beat?

Both Slyvia and Arlovski were consensus Top 5 HWs, arguably Top 3 HWs prior to facing Fedor. And Timmy may have been boring as fuck, but he is FAR from the worst HW fighter.

[Kuzzy Powers]

I enjoy DaMMplaymakers hate for Tim Sylvia.

[SHOGUN]

How strong was the HW back in the day? Not strong at all.. Compare that to the talent today it's not even close.

This isn't 2001 we're talking about. We're talking about two years ago at the absolute latest. Most of the faces that were highly touted a year are still there or lingering near the top 10.

I enjoy DaMMplaymakers hate for Tim Sylvia.

Me too.

[EmpireWF]

People in the UFC that beat AA and Ray Mercer's Bitch Tim Sylvia

#1) Brock with 1 arm tied behind his back
#2) Big Nog
#3) Carwin
#4) Cain
#5) Junior
#6) Mir
#7) Couture
#8) Kongo
#9) Cro Cop (even over the hill ass would)
#10) ROY NELSON would

who gives a shit about them now? We're talking 2008.