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  • Liquidrob
    Izzy is a bum
    • Feb 2009
    • 11785

    #16
    Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
    I like that he uses wacky pro wrestling terminology like "hammerlock" instead of MMA elitist termmnology like "kimura".
    It's a catch wrestling term (yes, I know catch became Pro), we have always said hammerlock

    triangles are leg chokes

    arm triangle is side choke

    there are some others
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    • Anthony
      In Brendan we trust.
      • Jun 2009
      • 5201

      #17
      Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
      Flame away, but Bas sucks in the booth. He just does. He's gotten worse and worse over the years.

      Play by play:

      Mauro is the best play by play guy, he's passionate, knows the sport, adds humor when appropriate, has strong opinions when appropriate, he has the total package.

      Gus gets a lot of shit, but he has potential. He's new. Why he tones down his act for MMA is beyond me. GET CRAZY, GUS!

      Goldie sucks, but I wouldt replace him.

      Schiavello isnt everyones cup of tea, but I love him.

      Kenny Rice sucks. No product knowledge, he's a goof.

      Analyst:

      Rogan has tremendous product knowledge, and the demo identifies with him. He does root for certain guys too much. Only drawback. I odnt care that he's never competed, doesnt matter.

      Bas sucks.

      Quadros is FUCKING AWESOME, insane knowledge, does his homework, loves the sport and his passion comes through.

      Pat Miletich is ok, but too dry. Passable, but adds nothing.

      Frank has no opinion on anything. Untapped potential. He's a great talker and charasmatic, but it doesnt translate to the booth. I like that he uses wacky pro wrestling terminology like "hammerlock" instead of MMA elitist termmnology like "kimura". Frank & Barnett dont have the prowres fear, they get it that it's all the same shit. Frank even said so on the Houston show when asked why pro wrestlers keep coming to MMA. "Because pro wrestling & MMA are the same." Haha, I hope Mamba was watching.

      Muuur talks forever and dominates the action.

      Florian is good, better than Miletich, but nearly as dry.

      BILL GOLDBERG was the worst, but I miss him because he was awesomely bad.

      The Bellator Guy is a good listen.
      Agreed, Bill Goldberg's interviews/commentary was great comedy. And speaking of comedic commentary, that's one of the main reasons i'd love to see Rogan and Bas work together.

      For professional/by the book commentating Mauro, Schiavello & Quadros.

      For retarded/wtf are you talking about/John Kerry commentating you'd have to go with Frank Shamrock, Bill and Mike Goldberg

      Gus needs to stick to commentating for the Knicks/CBS, nothing against the guy - he just doesn't do it for me.

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      • Liquidrob
        Izzy is a bum
        • Feb 2009
        • 11785

        #18
        Mike Goldberg is awful, I think Gus Johnson can be really good with some more shows

        Agree on Pat, he is great but to dry, same with Florian

        I like Randy on color, he is dry but it works for him, I like when Randy is in the booth

        Frank can be much better when he just acts like himself, dont know why he cant decide who wins a round though

        Bas was great, he is sort of a caricature of himself now and just a clown

        Mauro is hit or miss, he is a little to Pro Wrestling though, plus he is over the top with his one liners that are so rehearsed

        I never was crazy over Quandros, he is good though, I like that he has been around forever and knows about Pride and past shows

        'The Voice' is to much, same corny lines all the time and the yelling

        Rogan does a good job, but to much routing for fighters, not ever fighting is something I dont overlook when you're doing color

        Mir beaks it down he just cant find the right words, you can tell he is a stundent of the game
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        • Warner2BruceTD
          2011 Poster Of The Year
          • Mar 2009
          • 26142

          #19
          Originally posted by Liquidrob
          It's a catch wrestling term (yes, I know catch became Pro), we have always said hammerlock

          triangles are leg chokes

          arm triangle is side choke

          there are some others
          Yeah, and Barnett uses the same terms when he talks, i'm glad guys who learned that way don't conform, it drives the sherdog geeks nuts.

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          • Liquidrob
            Izzy is a bum
            • Feb 2009
            • 11785

            #20
            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
            Yeah, and Barnett uses the same terms when he talks, i'm glad guys who learned that way don't conform, it drives the sherdog geeks nuts.
            yeah, on the UG after ever show all the BJJ guys are up in arms at 'leg choke'
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            • Liquidrob
              Izzy is a bum
              • Feb 2009
              • 11785

              #21
              Couple guys that have done color in the past that have been good

              Ken Shamrock
              Jens Pulver
              Phil Baroni is actually pretty good

              Jens should be doing the WEC shows
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              • Kuzzy Powers
                Beautiful Like Moses
                • Oct 2008
                • 12542

                #22
                You serious bout Bas W2B? His out there remarks are perfect for the booth, pair him up with someone constantly trying to bring the knowledge (Quadros) and it works perfectly.

                As for Goldy.. yeah the guy is a robot but I think its been said by Rogan himself that Goldy dums himself down a bit to help play off Rogan and let Rogan explain certain things. Could just be a crock but Rogan's usually a pretty honest guy. I really do think Goldberg knows more then what he gives out in the booth, thats just his roll. Hes a good company man.. he turned down A LOT of money from the WWE to stay with the UFC because they wanted him to leave them out to dry for a PPV event and Goldberg refused.

                Oh and Gus Johnson is fucking TERRIBLE at doing MMA.. its quite embarrassing. The fact that they even get him for SHOWTIME shows is brutal.

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                • Anthony
                  In Brendan we trust.
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 5201

                  #23
                  Baroni is great, IMO.

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                  • Liquidrob
                    Izzy is a bum
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 11785

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                    As for Goldy.. yeah the guy is a robot but I think its been said by Rogan himself that Goldy dums himself down a bit to help play off Rogan and let Rogan explain certain things. Could just be a crock but Rogan's usually a pretty honest guy.
                    Thats just Rogan trying to help out his boy

                    How smart could you be with an Octogon tattoo on your back?
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                    • Kuzzy Powers
                      Beautiful Like Moses
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 12542

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Liquidrob
                      Thats just Rogan trying to help out his boy

                      How smart could you be with an Octogon tattoo on your back?
                      Dont hate the man cause he JUST BLEEDS.

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                      • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                        Highwayman
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 15429

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Liquidrob
                        Thats just Rogan trying to help out his boy

                        How smart could you be with an Octogon tattoo on your back?
                        Rob,



                        Quit hating on Goldy. You wouldn't know what you're watching if Goldy didn't do the PbP...I mean, would you ever know who this lovely young lady is?



                        Or even when the fight is over?

                        I surely wouldn't, so obviously, you wouldn't either.

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                        • Anthony
                          In Brendan we trust.
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 5201

                          #27
                          Originally posted by jeffersondavis
                          I'd love to see a Don Frye/Ken Shamrock announce team. They'd get pissed at each other mid 2nd round, drop the headsets, and start throwing haymakers. That'd be awesome.

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                          • EmpireWF
                            Giants in the Super Bowl
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 24082

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Liquidrob
                            Rogan does a good job, but to much routing for fighters, not ever fighting is something I dont overlook when you're doing color
                            When has the fact that Rogan has never fought professionally caused him to be a damned fool on the mic?


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                            • Liquidrob
                              Izzy is a bum
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 11785

                              #29
                              Originally posted by EmpireWF
                              When has the fact that Rogan has never fought professionally caused him to be a damned fool on the mic?
                              Doesnt matter, a color guy IMO should have fight experience, coaching experience, etc...and yes Rogan has been a fool a lot of times on the mic

                              Joe has none of that, he did compete in TKD back in the day, but that means little in MMA, he has trained bjj for many years but so have a lot of people, do you want them breaking down fights for you? I don't think even has done bjj tourneys

                              Anyone who has taken bjj or grappling can do the same job as Rogan, he just has a better personality, you watch a fight with me and you would get the same thing but probably a better breakdown and what a fighter would do next

                              I made a thread about this before, but of course no one agreed with me, oh well
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                              • EmpireWF
                                Giants in the Super Bowl
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 24082

                                #30
                                Rogan is the best color man in the biz these days (Bas may be up there, but he doesn't do enough these days...not counting the HD show).

                                The fact that he has not competed means nothing to me.

                                It's not as if during Silva/Sonnen, anyone was sitting there thinking....fuck that joe rogan, he knows nothing.

                                I'll admit sometimes Goldy can be a bit of a blowhard formulaic guy, but Rogan is good.


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