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[Warner2BruceTD]

While the show kicked started the beginning of the end, Starrcade '97 was certainly memorable and Sting/Hogan drew a great buyrate.

Another case of a one match show, and in this case, more for historical purposes than match quality. I figured we already listed it. Should be debated at minimum.

[FirstTimer]

The Sting-Hogan match sucked. I remember watching it and being bored to tears. Even going back now and rewatching it the match feels lame. The awful endind didn't help either.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

While the show kicked started the beginning of the end, Starrcade '97 was certainly memorable and Sting/Hogan drew a great buyrate.

Another case of a one match show, and in this case, more for historical purposes than match quality. I figured we already listed it. Should be debatted at minimum.

I remember it, sure...as one of the biggest wastes of money spent on wrestling ever.

The Sting intro was the only redeeming part of the show.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Historical significance vs. match quality

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Historical significance vs. match quality

I await your rationale for historical significance.

Go on...

[EmpireWF]

It was the culmination of an angle that lasted over one year. Hogan and Sting hadn't touched throughout that time and everything in WCW over that period was built on hyping the eventual Sting-Hogan match-up. The red hot nWo angle and Sting's transformation.

Of course, the match sucked donkey balls. Because Sting was out of action for that year (some surgery I believe), he wasn't in great shape. Hogan took upon himself to dominate most of the match for no good reason. Bischoff and company decided on the reverse screwjob ending which if done correctly, perhaps it would have been great. Instead, Nick Patrick for whatever reason counts a normal, steady pinfall and Hogan wins.

Bret Hart, who hadn't wrestled in WCW yet, runs down, says NOT AGAIN, punches Patrick out and restarts the match. Sting finally makes Hogan tap and WCW celebrates the changing of the tide.

Sure WCW had a hot however many months thanks to Goldberg in 1998, but just four months later...WWF made their move in overtaking them in the ratings.


If we're including shows for historical purposes, I don't see a reason not to include it. For WCW, it was an historic show.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Need MOAR convincing that the show itself is historically significant.

Could you tell the story of wrestling without it...

If this goes in for historical significance, it goes in there more for what NOT to do and as an example of horrible payoffs, not to show the good side of wrestling.

[EmpireWF]

You could tell the story of wrestling without WM 18 but that's in for one match.

[Bigpapa42]

Need MOAR convincing that the show itself is historically significant.

Could you tell the story of wrestling without it...

If this goes in for historical significance, it goes in there more for what NOT to do and as an example of horrible payoffs, not to show the good side of wrestling.

Could you tell the story of pro wrestling in America without a focus on WCW? Could you really explain the decline one of the biggest and most popular wrestling promotion without including that key show?

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

You could tell the story of wrestling without WM 18 but that's in for one match.

Not on the list...



















...yet

[EmpireWF]

Just for shits and giggles, how about UFC 1 and Pride 1?

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Just for shits and giggles, how about UFC 1 and Pride 1?

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[EmpireWF]

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[BazookaJoe5]

As I said on the first post, only mentioned Starrcade 97 because of the negative effect it had on WCW. They were at their peak then and from that point on, the entire organization fell apart.

I do feel it is a big part of wrestling history...just not in the same way as some of the others...I guess the question is if you only want to show the "good" side of wrestling, or if you want to include stuff that shows what not to do, like this.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

As I said on the first post, only mentioned Starrcade 97 because of the negative effect it had on WCW. They were at their peak then and from that point on, the entire organization fell apart.

I do feel it is a big part of wrestling history...just not in the same way as some of the others...I guess the question is if you only want to show the "good" side of wrestling, or if you want to include stuff that shows what not to do, like this.

I wanted to make a list that was a best of the best and most important...my original meaning of important would have been on the good side of things...but, this is a group list, so, I am open to interpretation.

If you all think this is a must watch PPV, by all means, I'll throw it on the list.