The General Wrestling Thread

[FedEx227]

I've never, ever seen the hype on him. It seems like for 6 months they've been hyping him up as their "next big face". I just don't see it. Terrible mic skills, nothing really in the ring, terrible story-teller in the ring. Just bland to the max.

Then again, their world champion is exactly the same way....

Soooooooo carry on.

[IamMedellin]

Escobar was never relevant.

He wasn't relevant in FCW for the first few times I saw him and he was their former world's champ.

Best match I saw there was Tyler Reks (the surfer guy in ECW) versus Drew McIntyre when Reks took the belt.

A crowd of maybe 50 sounded like the Staples Center during a Lakers Championship win.

As for Vickie getting Sheamus over, it's not that he doesn't need it because he gets heat just fine when he kicks Cena/Orton/HHH in the face...

It's just that he doesn't do shit before or after.

thats b/c Sheamus cant carry a segment, he gets heat when he's fucking John Cena up...when he Razor's Edging Trips

He sounds loses his edge when he talks...Vickie handles the Mic And Albino warrior just whoops Ass...

[EmpireWF]

main event of the first Monday night LIVE impact in march...

 

The main event of the 3/8 Monday LIVE Impact will be Hogan & Abyss vs. AJ & Flair in what will be Flair's first match in the U.S. since Wrestlemania in 2008

oh boy

[dave]

Cody Rhodes, you are the WORST fucking henchman ever.

First the Royal Rumble and now you got caught by the ref again on RAW.

I am so happy Orton pulled the trigger on your well-deserved RKO.

Cody Rhodes simply doesn't look the part. Too small and thin.
He looks like a jobber.

Ted DiBiase looks the part and I think he will eventually become a main eventer when they drop the Legacy thing.

When you see Orton, Dibiase and Rhodes together, one clearly doesn't belong.

Sadly a name alone doesn't make one a great wrestler or entertainer. Dusty Rhodes was a freak - taking that look to the heights he did. Cody Rhodes is not a freak. Hell I think Goldust was a better all-round performer - by a wide margin.

He's truly boring as fuck and brings nothing to the table, which of course means he will get pushed to the moon, because the WWE always manages to see things in all of the guys I happen to find absolutely worthless.

I think Dibiase's weakness is the Legacy thing.

He needs to develop his own identity. He's a solid worker, has the right look. If there was a guy who could use a manager, it's him.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Dustin Rhodes / Goldust was always a good performer, just was always given some corny shit...he actually turned the Goldust character into one that worked. I can't imagine many other performers making that work like he did.

Back when he was in WCW when he was "The Natural", I thought he was pretty good...loved what he did starting with that feud with Barry Windham and then the big feud with Rick Rude. He had some great moments early in his WWF career, too.

Dustin is an underrated performer over his time, for sure, IMO.

Cody is more of a generic WWE mid-card guy. He supposedly has good mic skills, but he really hasn't done anything to show them off. He has basically been with Hardcore Holly and Randy Orton since he started in the WWE, so, there hasn't been much room to see what he has.

Dibiase Jr...haven't had a chance to see what he has considering he has only been with Orton the entire time.

[EmpireWF]

Dustin Rhodes / Goldust was always a good performer, just was always given some corny shit...he actually turned the Goldust character into one that worked. I can't imagine many other performers making that work like he did.

Original Goldust (I'd guess until his face turn in 1998 I think) was fucking awesome. They played up the homosexual stuff despite the fact he had Marlena with him. It was in no way a cookie cutter gimmick. Perhaps as important, he could go for a big dude in the ring.

[SuperKevin]

Golddust is the greatest gimmick used in the WWE since the 80s.

[BazookaJoe5]

I couldn't really say that DiBiase sucks or doesn't suck, he so rarely wrestles and gets mic time that it's impossible for me to draw a conclusion of any sort on him at this point. What I have seen of him in the ring isn't horrible. It's the same Orton style of working that W2B always talks about...which is neither good nor bad, as far as WWE goes...

Cody and Ted basically have no character other than being Orton's lackeys for the past year-plus. That isn't their fault, it's more Vince and creative for giving them nothing to make them stand out...

[Warner2BruceTD]

DiBiase works the exact style that WWE wants, and he does it very well. As everyone probably knows, I find that style incredibly bland and boring to watch.

If you notice, when they bring new guys up from FCW, they all work this same style. How many ECW matches have you seen with Vance Archer, the new tag team video game geeks, Woo Woo Woo guy, etc, with this formula:

-Face starts off hot, knocks heel out of the ring, cut to commercial
-Back from commercial, heel uses illegal tactic (trasition spot)
-Long resthold, usually the trademark Orton reverse chinlock or side headlock
-False comeback, highspot, another resthold.
-Big babyface comeback, either resulting in victory, or heel uses another cheap tactic to win.

But....

*Match always ends with signature finisher*

Forget the young guys on ECW, this is how 90% of all WWE tv matches go.

It's what they teach, it;s what they want. And DiBiase is an exact clone of Orton, HHH, et al.

[IamMedellin]

Goldust was The Greatest charecter in the WWF until he turned face

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBF2lYhDSiU]YouTube - WWF / WWE - Goldust Promo[/ame]

[BigBiss]

DiBiase works the exact style that WWE wants, and he does it very well. As everyone probably knows, I find that style incredibly bland and boring to watch.

If you notice, when they bring new guys up from FCW, they all work this same style. How many ECW matches have you seen with Vance Archer, the new tag team video game geeks, Woo Woo Woo guy, etc, with this formula:

-Face starts off hot, knocks heel out of the ring, cut to commercial
-Back from commercial, heel uses illegal tactic (trasition spot)
-Long resthold, usually the trademark Orton reverse chinlock or side headlock
-False comeback, highspot, another resthold.
-Big babyface comeback, either resulting in victory, or heel uses another cheap tactic to win.

But....

*Match always ends with signature finisher*

Forget the young guys on ECW, this is how 90% of all WWE tv matches go.

It's what they teach, it;s what they want. And DiBiase is an exact clone of Orton, HHH, et al.

this is because instead of just FCW they should have 6-7 devs. know your getting Steve Kerns version of what works for TV

I agree with RVD they need to bring back squashes, Cena needs to be on tv twice a month and at the PPV. guys that cant work should be used in vins and only work at the PPV

mid card guys that can go should be on every night

[krulmichael]

First single from Mickie James country album came out yesterday. All I gotta say is stick to your day job Mickie (and she's easily my fav diva, love her lol). I was raised with country music so I still listen to it from time to time...but her voice just isn't cut out for it IMO.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAExIfvtL04]YouTube - Mickie James-Are You With Me[/ame]

[IamMedellin]

[dave]

this is because instead of just FCW they should have 6-7 devs. know your getting Steve Kerns version of what works for TV

I agree with RVD they need to bring back squashes, Cena needs to be on tv twice a month and at the PPV. guys that cant work should be used in vins and only work at the PPV

mid card guys that can go should be on every night

While I'm not a huge Cena fan, do you really think he can't work?

[dave]

DiBiase works the exact style that WWE wants, and he does it very well. As everyone probably knows, I find that style incredibly bland and boring to watch.

If you notice, when they bring new guys up from FCW, they all work this same style. How many ECW matches have you seen with Vance Archer, the new tag team video game geeks, Woo Woo Woo guy, etc, with this formula:

-Face starts off hot, knocks heel out of the ring, cut to commercial
-Back from commercial, heel uses illegal tactic (trasition spot)
-Long resthold, usually the trademark Orton reverse chinlock or side headlock
-False comeback, highspot, another resthold.
-Big babyface comeback, either resulting in victory, or heel uses another cheap tactic to win.

But....

*Match always ends with signature finisher*

Forget the young guys on ECW, this is how 90% of all WWE tv matches go.

It's what they teach, it;s what they want. And DiBiase is an exact clone of Orton, HHH, et al.

Not disagreeing with that ... but at the end of the day, aren't you supposed to do what the boss tells you to do?

I remember when Owen Hart started in the WWF after his stint in Japan. He was awesome, so unreal, then in months he became bland. It was so sad.