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  • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
    Highwayman
    • Feb 2009
    • 15429

    Originally posted by FedEx227
    The legend returns get less and less impactful because they do it all the god damn time. It's been, what, 5 months since we last saw Flair? A year since we last saw Grandmaster Sex-ay (although nobody cared anyway). IRS and Million Dollar Man are there all the time.

    What does the WWE expect? HEY EVERYONE BRET HART~!!!! ... Uh, yeah just ignore that he did a PPV pre-show like 2 weeks ago.
    Their biggest issue with that, is they use the same guys every.single.time. Most of the guys already work in-house for them. They also have a few guys they go-to all of the time. Yeah, they are safe and always show up...but damn, they show up 5 times a year. When they show up, they aren't going to get a cheap pop.

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    • FedEx227
      Delivers
      • Mar 2009
      • 10454

      Right, does anyone really give a shit to see Ron Simmons and IRS again? Or Arn, or Slaughter?

      Even someone like Austin would've at least got the crowd going yesterday. He hasn't been away forever but definitely long enough for him to be a surprise.
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      • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
        Highwayman
        • Feb 2009
        • 15429

        Originally posted by FedEx227
        Right, does anyone really give a shit to see Ron Simmons and IRS again? Or Arn, or Slaughter?

        Even someone like Austin would've at least got the crowd going yesterday. He hasn't been away forever but definitely long enough for him to be a surprise.
        These guys are not really stars...and sure, Sarge will get a pop once in a while and so will a Ron Simmons DAMN, but do it 5-6 times a year...eh...its no longer funny or worthy of a pop.

        Bring out some guys that you don't see too damn often.

        No offense to Bret Hart...but I don't really care to see him in 2013. He was never good enough on the stick for me to care what he has to say.

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        • Leftwich
          Bring on the Season

          • Oct 2008
          • 13700

          You're all right and the guys at squared circle are delusional smarks. Yeah sure Jake the Snake was a big name to bring in but most of the people who were in attendance were somewhere between 16-25 and Jake hasn't been relevant since most of that crowd was 10 years old.

          Austin would have probably blown the fucking roof off that place. But like Larry and Fed said, i've seen the NAO a million times this year so why should i really care that much. On the other hand putting old school RAW in Baltimore as opposed to NYC or even Philly was not a smart move. I can't remember the last time something relevant in the wrestling world happened in Baltimore.

          Originally posted by Tailback U
          It won't say shit, because dying is for pussies.

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          • ThomasTomasz
            • Nov 2024

            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
            Confirmed concussion.

            This is bad news for Ziggler, who now has multiple concussions.
            Originally posted by s@ppisgod
            Why the fuck would you risk a guy with concussion problems with someone as sloppy as Ryback? Not even a year removed from his last one? When Chris Nowinski is spearheading the concussion issue on ALL sports? The WWE is being as reckless as Ryback...
            The shellshocked might not have caused the concussion. They had a spot where Ryback had Ziggler suspended in the air on a delayed suplex for about 30 seconds. That move likely caused the concussion, then shellshocked likely knocked him out easily.

            The fact that Ziggler is on Superstars is troubling itself. Now he's got a concussion working it and that's three in a calendar year? Not good news at all.

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            • ThomasTomasz
              • Nov 2024

              Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
              Confirmed concussion.

              This is bad news for Ziggler, who now has multiple concussions.
              Originally posted by s@ppisgod
              Why the fuck would you risk a guy with concussion problems with someone as sloppy as Ryback? Not even a year removed from his last one? When Chris Nowinski is spearheading the concussion issue on ALL sports? The WWE is being as reckless as Ryback...
              Originally posted by Leftwich
              You're all right and the guys at squared circle are delusional smarks. Yeah sure Jake the Snake was a big name to bring in but most of the people who were in attendance were somewhere between 16-25 and Jake hasn't been relevant since most of that crowd was 10 years old.

              Austin would have probably blown the fucking roof off that place. But like Larry and Fed said, i've seen the NAO a million times this year so why should i really care that much. On the other hand putting old school RAW in Baltimore as opposed to NYC or even Philly was not a smart move. I can't remember the last time something relevant in the wrestling world happened in Baltimore.
              The problem with Jake being brought in at the end is that half of the families that brought their kids out were already gone. Not only that, but half of the crowd was already moving to the exits at the end of the Reigns/Punk match. Some even left after Punk's brief time on the mic, not knowing that there is a dark main event of Cena and Orton. People in my section that were moving to the aisles were shocked to hear another match starting.

              As for why they did it in Baltimore, Vince was trying to compete with the national championship game for college football. It originally wasn't advertised as old school RAW, and only became that in the past week and a half. So of course, the same guys show up because they aren't planning these events six months or a year out, so the only ones who are available are the ones who work for them.

              As for Baltimore, it was a lot of kids though, not a great wrestling crowd. I don't know what anyone expects when half of your target group is out the door with an hour left in the show, and that target group is not going to move the crowd ambience.

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              • Warner2BruceTD
                2011 Poster Of The Year
                • Mar 2009
                • 26142

                I popped for Jake. I thought that was fun, and Ambrose was having the time of his life.

                Fuck Too Cool & Rikishi though. Go away heat then, go away heat now. God, I hate that act.

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                • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                  Highwayman
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 15429

                  I never got into Too Cool. One of those acts I have no idea how they caught on with anyone.

                  I mean, I can understand Santino or some other comedy acts...could never understand Too Cool's appeal. They were the dirt worst when I watched during the Attitude Era and I can't pop for them now.

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                  • Warner2BruceTD
                    2011 Poster Of The Year
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 26142

                    Santino was legit funny before he got hit with Vince's subtlety hammer.

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                    • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                      Highwayman
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 15429

                      Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                      Santino was legit funny before he got hit with Vince's subtlety hammer.
                      I get Santino and understand why he is a comedy act because he is funny...even with the subtlety hammer, he has his moments.

                      Too Cool?

                      Never.

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                      • BigBiss
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1912



                        #newschoolraw never worked out, no one poped for daniel wyatt at 6:10

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                        • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                          Highwayman
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 15429

                          OH MY DAMN

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                          • s@ppisgod
                            No longer a noob
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 1032

                            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                            I popped for Jake. I thought that was fun, and Ambrose was having the time of his life.

                            Fuck Too Cool & Rikishi though. Go away heat then, go away heat now. God, I hate that act.
                            That was a great moment. Jake hasn't been on WWE TV since that horrid mid-90's run IIRC. I honestly never expected him back, save for maybe a HOF tinduction. To see him to end a Raw, even if it was a themed Raw, in there with a main eventer like Punk and to have the spotlight to himself. It was really cool, both from a nostalgic standpoint and also from the perspective that the guy should have been found dead in a hotel room years ago. He worked hard and got back in the ring the right way. Also, his music is badass.

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                            • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                              Highwayman
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 15429

                              Jake had been working toward that moment for over a year now...to get sober and in some shape that the WWE would take a chance on him for a quick Rumble moment (maybe he still gets it) or something on TV with the WWE. Good to see they rewarded him for cleaning up his act, I though.

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                              • Warner2BruceTD
                                2011 Poster Of The Year
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 26142

                                Originally posted by BigBiss


                                #newschoolraw never worked out, no one poped for daniel wyatt at 6:10
                                It's a fucking ghost.

                                Also, what a match. Crowd gave no fucks at the start, and were on fire by the end. Bobby Heenan is the best thing ever. Today, he'd get no chance.

                                This reminds me, i've been meaning to do a big rewatch of WWF tag wrestling from about '85-'90. Love all of that stuff, especially those long house show matches from MSG, Boston Gardens, Maple Leaf Gardens, Cap Center, etc. Problem is all of this stuff is going to dry up as they yank it off YouTube for the network.

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