The General Wrestling Thread

[Mogriffjr]

Bray Wyatt

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

On their corporate site, WWE has revealed their subscriber and revenue goals for the Network. These are their rough estimates for the US:

* 1 million subscribers - $115,000,000 - break-even
* 2 million subscribers - $225,000,000 - $50,000,000
* 3 million subscribers - $350,000,000 - $150,000,000

And these are their rough estimates internationally:

* 250,000 subscribers - $25,000,000 - break-even
* 750,000 subscribers - $75,000,000 - $70,000,000
* 1,500,000 subscribers - $140,000,000 - $85,000,000

[JimLeavy59]

3 million subscribers seems like a lock to me.

[PP]

30 Man rumble at WM? Where is the end game here....

[Ravin]

30 Man rumble at WM? Where is the end game here....

A sweet trophy.

[Warner2BruceTD]

On their corporate site, WWE has revealed their subscriber and revenue goals for the Network. These are their rough estimates for the US:

* 1 million subscribers - $115,000,000 - break-even
* 2 million subscribers - $225,000,000 - $50,000,000
* 3 million subscribers - $350,000,000 - $150,000,000

And these are their rough estimates internationally:

* 250,000 subscribers - $25,000,000 - break-even
* 750,000 subscribers - $75,000,000 - $70,000,000
* 1,500,000 subscribers - $140,000,000 - $85,000,000

Basically this is exactly what most figured weeks ago. Not sure why they've split the international numbers off as something separate.

3 million subscribers seems like a lock to me.

Really? I think 1 million is questionable.

Only 4 million will watch RAW for free, if you think they can convince 75% of those people to pay $120 per year, i'd buy the stock if I were you.

Most people think the 700k that buy Mania are a lock, but i'm not so sure. Some will have shitty internet. Some won't trust the stream. Some will be retards who don't realize it's internet based and think they don't get the channel (seriously, we still get tweets from people who think this). Some were run off by the shitty roll out.

Honestly no number would shock me. Not 1 million, not 3 million, not 500k, not 350k. It's uncharted waters. I think if they do 3 million Dana White will seriously consider a similar package for his UFC Network that includes all PPV's. And cab/sat will be in big, big trouble and pray Floyd Mayweather never retires.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

30 Man rumble at WM? Where is the end game here....

There are currently a lot of angry employees...they are going to get EVERYONE on the show.

[Warner2BruceTD]

There are currently a lot of angry employees...they are going to get EVERYONE on the show.

What's the difference? Nobody has any idea what the payoffs are anymore anyway.

Maybe shoehorning 30 more guys on the card is the red herring for when everybody gets a tiny check.

[EmpireWF]

Hogan at 8, Taker at 9....maybe Flair at 10?

[Warner2BruceTD]

Hogan at 8, Taker at 9....maybe Flair at 10?

Sting!

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

What's the difference? Nobody has any idea what the payoffs are anymore anyway.

Maybe shoehorning 30 more guys on the card is the red herring for when everybody gets a tiny check.

It very well may be.

Even if they don't get the pay check, being on the show is worth something to most of these guys and its a way to help appease 2/3 of the roster that otherwise wouldn't be on the show.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Zeb & Heyman were both great tonight.

So glad managers have made a comeback, and the ones we're seeing now are as good as ever. Toss in my boy Bruce Tharpe.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Zeb & Heyman were both great tonight.

So glad managers have made a comeback, and the ones we're seeing now are as good as ever. Toss in my boy Bruce Tharpe.

I still think they need a few more.

They got a ton of guys that just can't talk, especially live. A manager will go a long way to help getting them over...or at least give'em a shot.

[Warner2BruceTD]

It very well may be.

Even if they don't get the pay check, being on the show is worth something to most of these guys and its a way to help appease 2/3 of the roster that otherwise wouldn't be on the show.

I remember a few years ago Meltzer said a bunch of the JTG level guys were annoyed because it's mandatory to show up for Mania week, but you have to pay your own expenses, and youre encouraged to bring family and then have to feed/entertain them all week long too. So the token check they give you for coming to work but not working the show ends up barely or not even covering the costs of showing up. I think it was somewhere in the range of $500 or something, which obviously ends up being a money loser for most of the guys.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I remember a few years ago Meltzer said a bunch of the JTG level guys were annoyed because it's mandatory to show up for Mania week, but you have to pay your own expenses, and youre encouraged to bring family and then have to feed/entertain them all week long too. So the token check they give you for coming to work but not working the show ends up barely or not even covering the costs of showing up. I think it was somewhere in the range of $500 or something, which obviously ends up being a money loser for most of the guys.

To be fair, those guys work Axxess and actually work...pretty beat they have to front the bill, though. NXT guys had to show up last year and worked Axxess pretty hard, and those dudes get paid in rice cakes and oregano.