The General Wrestling Thread

[BigBiss]

Have you ever seen a star killed off so fully & completely the way TNA killed off Joe?

Joe & Styles had all the momentum in the world, and TNA had a chance to make two stars for themselves, and instead they turned Styles into a goofy comedy dork and killed him, then buried Joe with the crybaby gimmick.

THC did just as much as TNA

Daffney = supper awesome.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I stopped watching TNA a long time ago. Recently stopped DVR'ing RAW, too.

All I watch now is ECW & ROH on HDNet. I keep up with NOAH & Dragon Gate on the internet. That's it.

Life is too short to waste on shitty wrestling.

I'm watching RAW for the second time in as many weeks since I'm a glutton for punishment...I just saw the Miz (loads of potential as a hell) get punked by Cena and made to look like a complete waste of life.

Sad.

[JayDizzle]

If anything, I see Miz as a surrogate to "Early Cena."

Both are brash, ego-driven and are willing to talk shit to the biggest stars in the fed just to get some recognition.

Actually, aside from the tag of being a media star-turned-wrestler (as opposed to Cena in reverse), they could be two sides of the same coin where Cena turned faced and Miz has yet to do so.

[JayDizzle]

Yeah... the whole "Trump buys Raw" angle died... thankfully.

We still get commercial-free wrestling and now Randy Orton gets to job to HHH in a "Three Stages of Hell" match.

Lame.

[Kuzzy Powers]

What the fuck was the point of any of this? Like really?

Good lord..

[FedEx227]

Anyone think they have the balls to let Miz beat Cena?

They should. But I doubt it.

And yes, this Trump shit has been stupid. Absolutely zero point outside of a 1-week spike in the ratings.

[Bigpapa42]

Have you ever seen a star killed off so fully & completely the way TNA killed off Joe?

Joe & Styles had all the momentum in the world, and TNA had a chance to make two stars for themselves, and instead they turned Styles into a goofy comedy dork and killed him, then buried Joe with the crybaby gimmick.

TNA is fucked up. That is all that needs to be said on that.

[Bigpapa42]

Anyone think they have the balls to let Miz beat Cena?

They should. But I doubt it.

And yes, this Trump shit has been stupid. Absolutely zero point outside of a 1-week spike in the ratings.

The E is almost as stupid at this point. Stupid in a different way, but stupid. There is all this talk that they are desperate to make new stars. So what do they do? Protect the living hell out of Triple H and make sure that someone like Randy Orton can never really look threatening.

Putting The Miz over Cena could be a big move for Miz if they did it clean. Cena isn't quite as protected as Triple H and at least seems capable of of allowing opponents to look good. I doubt that creative would allow it to happen, though. Wouldn't actually allow the future to shine much.

[dave]

The Miz is not and never will be a main eventer.
He's a glorified Red Rooster.

Tonight's RAW was ok, but I fast forwarded through all the HHH-Orton match. If I get insomnia, I'll go back to it. HHH is the most boring main eventer in WWE history. Orton a close second. (HHH more interesting in the DX stuff)

The whole Trump thing was stupid, but at least the live audience got a free show. And I love the commercial free thing - how much did KFC pay for that?

The two best parts of RAW - Maryse and Santino. Somehow they have to get those two in a program together.

[BigBiss]

Results from The ACW this weekend

(Pre-Show)

Match # 1 - Tag Match
Rory Fox & Spiro (win) vs. Junior Garza & "Hotsauce" Marco Riviera

Match # 2 - Tournament Qualifying Match
Diamond Icee vs. Claudia Del Solis (win)

Match # 3 - "The Lone Star Kid" Ricky Rhodes vs. "Bio-Hazard" Jaykus Plisken (win)

Match # 4 - Eight Man Tag Match
Team Smurf: JC Bravo, Berry Breeze, Chingo Smurf & Mike Knoxville vs. "Mr. Showtime" Scot Summers, Darin Childs, Shawn Vexx & Brent Masters (win)

(Main Show)

Match # 5 - First Round Tournament Match
Sara Del Rey (win & advance to semi-finals) vs. Angel Blue with Chingo Smurf

Match # 6 - First Round Tournament Match
Claudia Del Solis vs. Rachel Summerlyn (win & advance to semi-finals)

Match # 7 - First Round Tournament Match
Jessica James (win & advance to semi-finals) vs. Rain

Match # 8 - First Round Tournament Match
Portia Perez vs. Daizee Haze (win & advance to semi-finals

Match # 9 - Special Challenge Match
"Mr. Showtime" Scot Summers (win) vs. Darin Childs

Match # 10 - Semi-Final Tournament Match
Sara Del Rey (win & advance to finals) vs. Rachel Summerlyn

Match # 11 - Semi-Final Tournament Match
Jessica James vs. Daizee Haze (win & advance to finals)

Match # 12 - ACW Heavyweight Title Match
Challenger "One Man" Mike Dell (win & new champion) vs. Champion JT LaMotta

Match # 13 - Non-Tournament Special Feature Match
Nikki Roxx vs. MsChif (win)

Match # 14 - Main Event - Tournament Finals Match
Sara Del Rey vs. Daizee Haze (win & first ever American Joshi Queen of Queens)

Pre show will be on youtube and the main card will be out on DVD, Dave should order one... just saying.

[Bigpapa42]

The Miz is not and never will be a main eventer.
He's a glorified Red Rooster.

Tonight's RAW was ok, but I fast forwarded through all the HHH-Orton match. If I get insomnia, I'll go back to it. HHH is the most boring main eventer in WWE history. Orton a close second. (HHH more interesting in the DX stuff)

The whole Trump thing was stupid, but at least the live audience got a free show. And I love the commercial free thing - how much did KFC pay for that?

The two best parts of RAW - Maryse and Santino. Somehow they have to get those two in a program together.

Calling the Miz no different from the Red Rooster isn't that much of an insult. Terry Taylor was one of considered one of the top young talents of the late 80s. He was good in the ring and decently charismatic. He was just saddled with one of the dumber gimmicks in WWF history.

I'm no big fan of the Miz, but the WWE does need to build some new legit main eventers.

[Warner2BruceTD]

The Miz is nothing short of awesome, and should get pushed to the moon.

He;s one of the best talkers on the roster, is over as a heel because he's such a believeable douchebag, and is the most improved worker on the roster over the last few years.

I love the guy, he's having a fantastic year, and he's the only thing worth watching on RAW. I wish he'd go back to ECW, i'd love to watch him every week.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

The E is almost as stupid at this point. Stupid in a different way, but stupid. There is all this talk that they are desperate to make new stars. So what do they do? Protect the living hell out of Triple H and make sure that someone like Randy Orton can never really look threatening.

Putting The Miz over Cena could be a big move for Miz if they did it clean. Cena isn't quite as protected as Triple H and at least seems capable of of allowing opponents to look good. I doubt that creative would allow it to happen, though. Wouldn't actually allow the future to shine much.

You don't even have to put Miz over clean...he can win by DQ...he could lose but earn Cena's "respect" in a good match...he doesn't have to get the 1-2-3 to be put over...considering his douchebag heeliness, he could lose by DQ after a good match and still be put over.

Plenty of ways to do it, yet Cena will FU 5-6 times in less than 5 minutes and Miz will go back to wrestling Goldust and Hornswoggle.

[Bigpapa42]

You don't even have to put Miz over clean...he can win by DQ...he could lose but earn Cena's "respect" in a good match...he doesn't have to get the 1-2-3 to be put over...considering his douchebag heeliness, he could lose by DQ after a good match and still be put over.

Plenty of ways to do it, yet Cena will FU 5-6 times in less than 5 minutes and Miz will go back to wrestling Goldust and Hornswoggle.

Likely. And then the E will continue to wonder why they can't build new stars...

[Warner2BruceTD]

i hate wrestling now because couple years back when the rock ,stone cold etc were there , it was actually fun watchin and it looked real but now its fake as ever

Hold on a second...it's fake?