E:60 tackles whether or not the UFC is a monopoly

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Liquidrob
    Izzy is a bum
    • Feb 2009
    • 11785

    #46
    um, ESPN just airs the fights, the UFC is a 'league', well, they promote it like that, not even comparable, it's a low budget boxing show

    GO to BE, I think they have a good article on it
    Liquidrob's Top 10 Fighters Rankings


    The 10 Fighters Who Changed The Game

    Comment

    • Ravin
      Dishing the Gino's
      • Feb 2009
      • 6994

      #47
      Just a thought, but isn't every sport a monopoly? When you think about it, it is.

      You want to play pro football, you only have the NFL.
      You want to play pro hockey, you only have the NHL.
      You want to play pro basketball, you only have the NBA.

      Sure you have some euro leagues like NFL Europe, and basketball and Hockey guys can go play in europe, but if you want to make the biggest buck, you have to play for the biggest organization. So if MMA is a sport, then the UFC being a monopoly isn't an issue because you could argue so is the NFL/NHL/NBA. If someone started a new football league today, do you think college guys are going to flock to it? There were second pro football/hockey leagues, and both were consumed but the NFL/NHL.

      But then to put it in retrospect, the NHL most known bench warmer is Paul Bissonnette who makes $700,000/yr. Guy played 48 games last year, scored 1 goal and even has said he can't complain about his situation in life, making this much money.
      All you need to know when thinking of the NHL vs Madden series is the two people involved in making the games.

      "rammer" and "cummings"

      The NHL series is a giver, Madden takes the load.

      Comment

      • Warner2BruceTD
        2011 Poster Of The Year
        • Mar 2009
        • 26142

        #48
        I believe all four major team sports have monopoly exemptions from the US government. I know for a fact that MLB does.

        The NFL has faced accusations before, most famously from Donald Trumps USFL. The USFL lost.

        Comment

        • Warner2BruceTD
          2011 Poster Of The Year
          • Mar 2009
          • 26142

          #49
          The other difference, is these leagues have unions that protect wages. Fighters have no such union, so the argument from some is that Zuffa is able to stiffle fighter pay by remaining the only game in town.

          Comment

          • Liquidrob
            Izzy is a bum
            • Feb 2009
            • 11785

            #50
            big difference like Warner said is the union, plus, the UFC has pretty much 1 owner, Zuffa

            All the other sports have multiple owners and players/fighters can't be shut out so easily if they have issues with an owner, in the UFC you piss off someone, you're gone

            Thats why when you have these pieces you don't have any current fighters coming out saying negative things, to much to risk
            Liquidrob's Top 10 Fighters Rankings


            The 10 Fighters Who Changed The Game

            Comment

            • EmpireWF
              Giants in the Super Bowl
              • Mar 2009
              • 24082

              #51
              [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7neKshmjzI"]Dana White Responds to ESPN - YouTube[/ame]


              Originally posted by Liquidrob
              All the other sports have multiple owners and players/fighters can't be shut out so easily if they have issues with an owner, in the UFC you piss off someone, you're gone
              Jose Canseco would beg to differ.


              Comment

              • Warner2BruceTD
                2011 Poster Of The Year
                • Mar 2009
                • 26142

                #52
                Jose Canseco played until he was 40, and nade millions well past his prime. I dont get that one.

                Comment

                • EmpireWF
                  Giants in the Super Bowl
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 24082

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                  Jose Canseco played until he was 40, and nade millions well past his prime. I dont get that one.
                  Didn't he claim he was blackballed? Or was that to help sell his books around the time Congress was all up in MLB's business?


                  Comment

                  • Steel Mamba
                    Nasty
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2549

                    #54
                    Here's the full interview

                    Comment

                    • Steel Mamba
                      Nasty
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2549

                      #55
                      Originally posted by EmpireWF
                      If ESPN is airing boxing where the prelim guys make that little, why go after the UFC for giving out $8k/$8k?
                      ESPN is just a broadcaster.

                      You can't compare the UFC to small-time boxing promotions, it doesn't make any sense. That's like comparing NFL salaries to what people are making in the arena league, or other pro-am level events. The accurate comparison is NBA to NFL, etc.. UFC to Golden Boy Promotions..

                      Comment

                      • Epidemik
                        Commitment to Excellence
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 10276

                        #56
                        so the full ESPN Piece is 10 minutes? i tried finding the full ESPN piece before i watch the full piece released by the UFC

                         

                        Comment

                        • EmpireWF
                          Giants in the Super Bowl
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 24082

                          #57
                          Around the 17 minute mark, Lorenzo says the past two PPV shows, compared to HBO Boxing PPVs, the UFC has paid their undercard fighters 5 times more money.

                          The interview was conducted before the UFC to Fox news broke, so keep that in mind.


                          Originally posted by Epidemik
                          so the full ESPN Piece is 10 minutes? i tried finding the full ESPN piece before i watch the full piece released by the UFC
                          The ESPN piece hasn't aired yet. Not sure when it will.


                          Comment

                          • Liquidrob
                            Izzy is a bum
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 11785

                            #58
                            Lol @ lorenzo blatantly lying about the fighters getting 50% of the revenue, please explain that, UFC fans are such rubes believing these guys

                            I don't know how many 'get em dana!' And lorenzo posts I have read this last week, too funny
                            Liquidrob's Top 10 Fighters Rankings


                            The 10 Fighters Who Changed The Game

                            Comment

                            • EmpireWF
                              Giants in the Super Bowl
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 24082

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Liquidrob
                              Lol @ lorenzo blatantly lying about the fighters getting 50% of the revenue, please explain that, UFC fans are such rubes believing these guys
                              It sounds like he's selling a bridge, but no one can honestly know since they don't release any of those figures publicly.


                              Comment

                              • EmpireWF
                                Giants in the Super Bowl
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 24082

                                #60
                                Here's the ESPN piece

                                <script src="http://player.espn.com/player.js?pcode=1kNG061cgaoolOncv54OAO1ceO-I&width=576&height=324&externalId=espn:7456309&thr uParam_espn-ui[autoPlay]=false&thruParam_espn-ui[playRelatedExternally]=true"></script>


                                Comment

                                Working...