UFC on Fuel does 217k Viewers (Spike Does 694k with Reruns)

[Warner2BruceTD]

But rob, most of that built in audience doesn't get the channel.

How many viewers do you expect them to get with a universe of 35 million? Only 10% of the country gets the channel, man. Think of all the CrimsonGhosts who would have watched, but couldnt.

You cant say the Bellator numbers are good (and they have been) without saying the Fuel number was great. If you want to make fun of UFC, rip the Fuel prelims from the FX card, that had like 60k watching the Lavar Johnson opener. Or the MMA Tonight or whatever its called, literally nobody is watching.

[Liquidrob]

The Bellator numbers on MTV are not really good, I dont think I ever said they were, 200k on cable isnt good, but Bellator with no name to it gets 200k, the UFC is THE UFC, I know it's Fuel, but it's the UFC, the big bad wolf

They have sites slobbing them like crazy, MMA fans have been checking if they have Fuel for months now

[Warner2BruceTD]

The Bellator numbers on MTV are not really good, I dont think I ever said they were, 200k on cable isnt good, but Bellator with no name to it gets 200k, the UFC is THE UFC, I know it's Fuel, but it's the UFC, the big bad wolf

They have sites slobbing them like crazy, MMA fans have been checking if they have Fuel for months now

C'mon rob, don't downplay the Bellator numbers now. Nobody expected them to do as well as they have on such a shit network. They aren't great numbers, but I would definitely call them 'good', especially when they peak around 300k which nobody on earth thought they could ever touch.

Bellator broke records on MTV2, UFC is smashing records on Fuel, both have bee successful. The UFC number is more impressive when you consider the viewing universe and the Fuel baseline numbers, but MTV2 has to be pleased with what Bellator has done.

[Warner2BruceTD]

I see what you are saying though, it's the UFC, they should be able to draw anywhere, but in reality it just doesnt work like that. The message board crowd does not drive the number, you know that, it's people like Shag & Shayn who were in the chatbox saying they had no idea Fuel even aired UFC. It's the casual fans like that who UFC/FOX has clearly not reached for the B & C shows, and they still put up record numbers for the network.

[Liquidrob]

I dont think I ever went overbaord on the bellator numbers, I made a couple 'this doesnt look good' threada about the,, they can not survive doing 200 to 300k in this market, they need spike or bust at the time which they did

'Smashing' Fuel records is just silly at this point and just a buzzword, like I said, its the UFC, they should do well anywhere, the message board crowd doesnt drive stuff, but thats who is watching on Fuel, every website is UFC crazy and puts it everywhere

Also, the casual fan that the UFC 'reached' is pretty much the same casual fan amount that watched Kimbo and Strikeforce on CBS with Fedor, the UFC hasnt blown the doors off it even with the UFC name