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  • Senser81
    VSN Poster of the Year
    • Feb 2009
    • 12804

    Sedin-Keith feud

    Pretty awesome. Early in the game, Sedin throws and elbow at Keith's head and knocks him into the boards well after the puck had left. Later, Keith throws and elbow at Sedin's head as the puck is flying overhead, knocking Sedin to the ground.

    NHL Network analysis...Keith is definitely going to miss some games. Huh?
  • killgod
    OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
    • Oct 2008
    • 4714

    #2
    I despise the injury being weighed in on the decision.

    If Keith was injured, does that turn a that hit, which likely won't lead to anything, into a suspension? Probably. Doesn't make sense.

    Regardless, Keith's gonna get 4 or so because there was no reason for him to do what he did.

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    • Senser81
      VSN Poster of the Year
      • Feb 2009
      • 12804

      #3
      Originally posted by killgod
      Regardless, Keith's gonna get 4 or so because there was no reason for him to do what he did.
      No reason other than getting elbowed in the head himself about 10 minutes prior?

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      • killgod
        OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
        • Oct 2008
        • 4714

        #4
        There was no (hockey) reason to try and run him there. The puck was past them and Sedin never touched it (that I can see, took an odd bounce off the boards and went over their heads, no?). If he didn't put the elbow to his head it still should have been 2 for interference if I'm seeing that correctly. If he misses the check he gives up a scoring opportunity.

        What good was to come? Simply personal revenge? If so, wait for a better opportunity to get it so you don't get 2 and 10. He's a better player than that.

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        • killgod
          OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
          • Oct 2008
          • 4714

          #5
          Originally posted by Kerry Fraser
          The deliberate elbow delivered by Duncan Keith directly to the head of Daniel Sedin was at bare minimum a five-minute major and game misconduct for elbowing. The best call would have been a match penalty under Rule 45.5 for deliberate attempt to injure under the elbowing rule!

          Duncan Keith demonstrated absolutely no intent on playing the puck that flew off the glass and was well out of range of Sedin when contact was made. Instead, once the opportunity for a payback on Daniel's non-penalized shoulder contact to Keith's head six and a half minutes earlier reared its ugly head, Duncan Keith seized the moment in an open-ice assault. As Daniel turned to look up ice and follow the puck, Duncan Keith's elbow was elevated, cocked and planted with force directly to the head of a surprised Daniel Sedin.

          If Duncan Keith had hauled off and sucker-punched Sedin or cracked him over the head with his stick instead of with a deliberate elbow, I would hope that most referees would deem either of those acts as a premeditated attempt to injure his opponent and appropriately assess a match penalty.

          The two acts I just described would not be deemed as checking tactics on a play of this nature; or even illegal ones that would result in a minor penalty. They would cross the line that defines normal minor infractions and venture into the most dangerous territory of attempting to injure a player. How does a deliberate elbow to the head, which generated as much force or more than a punch or stick, possibly be deemed a minor infraction? The truth is; there is no logical rational to support a minor penalty on this play or others that we have seen recently occur.

          Daniel Sedin should not have gotten a free pass last night in the game either. His high hit on Duncan Keith warranted at least a minor penalty for boarding or as I would prefer, an illegal check to the head. Even though this is not the type of hit you would expect from Daniel Sedin nor does he have a previous history, his illegal contact to the head of Duncan Keith should also be reviewed and dealt with.

          Last night I appeared on That's Hockey 2Nite on TSN2 via a Skype transmission from my home studio. My friend and show host, Steve Kouleas, asked me how much responsibility the on-ice officials have to help solve the problem of head hits and do Brendan Shanahan and the on-ice officials need to work in unison? The answer was a resounding, "YES they do!"

          The officials are the first line of defense in enforcing an acceptable standard on all rule infractions. How they employ this standard across the board goes a long way to act as a deterrent for player willingness to break the rules and more importantly in providing for player safety.

          The official's ability to accurately differentiate between minor and major infractions on the ice is vital to the success of controlling (and hopefully someday eliminating) dangerous hits and deliberate hits to the head of an opponent. Game enforcement is not only a most visible sign to participants in that specific game but to the hockey community at large as to what is deemed acceptable conduct.

          In too many situations witnessed this season, the officials have either missed the mark altogether or came up short by at least three minutes plus a game misconduct. The judgment of the referees needs to be collectively and immediately retooled by NHL V.P. of Officiating, Terry Gregson, to conform to a higher standard that is currently being maintained by the Player Safety Committee.

          As much as the on-ice officials are the first line of defense, Brendan Shanahan and the Player Safety Committee are the last line defense. For the most part Brenda Shanahan has done a very good job in ruling on dangerous hits and has levied suspensions this season that were previously unheard of. With some teams just 10 games away from playoff competition and chasing a spot, decisions on suspensions at this time can have a huge impact on a team.

          This factor did not deter 'Shanny' from imposing a deserved three-game suspension to Shane Doan for his elbow on Jamie Benn. The Coyotes sit tied in points for the last playoff spot with the LA Kings, who have a game in hand and are just two point ahead of San Jose (one game in hand) and Calgary. Shane Doan is a key cog in the Phoenix Coyotes' machine and will miss Conference games against Colorado, San Jose and St. Louis.

          Decisions at this time are also crucial in maintaining player accountability and a standard that hopefully will act as a strong deterrent moving into the playoffs. I look for Duncan Keith to receive a minimum of five games for his deliberate elbow to the head of Daniel Sedin. In addition, it is my hope that Daniel Sedin receives a one-game suspension for his careless hit to the head of Duncan Keith that was not penalized.

          The on-ice officials (refs) need to work more in unison with Brendan Shanahan in the area of enforcement and to help support tough decisions that are being made with player safety in mind. That, by the way, is one of the primary job descriptions of the referee.

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          • 1ke
            D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F
            • Mar 2009
            • 6641

            #6
            I commented on it last night that I thought Sedin was concussed. They dont like eachother, but the Canucks and Hawks dont like each other in general. In all honesty, Dave Bolland and the Sedins have much more of a rivalry than Duncan Keith. Bolland is usually the one put on deliberately to fuck with the two of em.

            I saw it, shitty stream, but I saw it. And I know exactly why he did it which lead to me to be ok with it. (Pure Homer) With that said, I fully accept Duncan will be suspended anywhere from 2-8 games.

            I also want Sedin to get a max of 2 games himself though, because he went shoulder to head on Duncan.

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            • Senser81
              VSN Poster of the Year
              • Feb 2009
              • 12804

              #7
              Originally posted by killgod
              There was no (hockey) reason to try and run him there. The puck was past them and Sedin never touched it (that I can see, took an odd bounce off the boards and went over their heads, no?). If he didn't put the elbow to his head it still should have been 2 for interference if I'm seeing that correctly. If he misses the check he gives up a scoring opportunity.

              What good was to come? Simply personal revenge? If so, wait for a better opportunity to get it so you don't get 2 and 10. He's a better player than that.
              So one player gets suspended because his elbow to the head came in an alleged worse game condition???

              That makes no sense to me. An elbow to the head is an elbow to the head. Sedins shot was just as cheap as Keiths, and he instigated.

              Hockey must have some weird suspension rules.

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              • wr50l
                Glen & CJ are secret Huns
                • Oct 2008
                • 4114

                #8
                At what point in the game did Sedin catch Keith? I want to see it.

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                • 1ke
                  D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 6641

                  #9
                  Originally posted by wr50l
                  At what point in the game did Sedin catch Keith? I want to see it.
                  They show Duncs hit first, but then they show Sedins hit. In reality, Sedin hit Duncan first and Duncs reacted after.

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                  • wr50l
                    Glen & CJ are secret Huns
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 4114

                    #10
                    Well look on the bright side, Sedin is probably going to miss as many games as Keith!

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                    • 1ke
                      D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 6641

                      #11
                      5 games for Duncan Keith. Meh......Whatever, knew it was coming. Still hate the Sedin sisters and the Canucks. Fuck off Burrows you fucking faggot.

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                      • wingsfan77
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 3000

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Senser81
                        Hockey must have some weird suspension rules.
                        Yup, it makes no sense at all, they go by a "previous offender" rule which makes absolutely no sense.

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