UPDATE: UFC 151 Canceled, Jon Jones vs Vitor Belfort added to UFC 152

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  • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
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    • Feb 2009
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    KoF is just straight up trolling...and poorly at that.

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    • Epidemik
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      • Jul 2009
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      • svetz17
        Got Six?
        • Jul 2012
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        Originally posted by Epidemik


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        • Warner2BruceTD
          2011 Poster Of The Year
          • Mar 2009
          • 26142

          What an amazing thread.

          -First of all, let's all act like Jon Jones is the only man to ever turn down a fight. You know, except for the two guys who also turned down fights yesterday.

          -I must have missed it, when did Jones become a promoter? I keep hearing that Jones cancelled UFC 151. People, ZUFFA cancelled the card. This would not have been the first time a main event fell apart due to injury. But this is the first time Zuffa shit canned a show as a result. Why? Too many shows, no fucking depth. Not Jones fault. It's 100% on the promoter. Not 90%, not 99%, ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. Not Jon Jones's responsibility or problem.

          -You know what else isn't Jon Jones's responsibility or problem? The undercard fighters losing a payday. Again, 100% on the promoter. Dana White blaming Jones for taking food off the table of these fighters makes me sick. What a classless piece of shit. If White is so concerned with the fighters getting paid, THEN FUCKING PAY THEM. You cancelled the show, dipshit. Re book these men, or pay them what you owe them. What is even more pathetic to me, is fans buy into this Dana White propaganda and are blaming Jones for screwing the other fighters. Again, when did Jon Jones become a promoter? It's Zuffa's job to provide for fighters, not Jones.

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          • Warner2BruceTD
            2011 Poster Of The Year
            • Mar 2009
            • 26142

            Originally posted by KINGOFOOTBALL
            People just bashing Dana for the sake of bashing him.

            You scheduled a card with Bones Jones title defense as your main event. His opponent is hurt you set up a replacement....HE refuses.
            But yeah its Danas fault for not stacking the card so deep it can survive without the "MAIN EVENT" . Its Danas fault because he said its about the UFC not the fighters.
            The card wasn't a month from now, it was 8 days from now. I can't kill Jones for refusing the fight on 8 days notice. Again, he should have taken the fight, but I can't kill him for saying no.

            The promoters are at fault for booking a card so fucking shallow, that it couldn't survive without the main event. This day was coming, and hopefully its a lesson. TOO MANY SHOWS, NOT ENOUGH STARS.

            I can't believe people are blaming a professional fighter, who makes his living by putting his body/life on the line in a fucking cage, for refusing a fight on a weeks notice. Mind boggling.

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            • Liquidrob
              Izzy is a bum
              • Feb 2009
              • 11785

              With all these guys "stepping up" why did they cancel

              Chael
              Weidman
              Vitor
              Silva
              etc...

              Same as every other blah ufc card, the promoter didn't get the job done, case closed
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              • KINGOFOOTBALL
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2009
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                Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                The card wasn't a month from now, it was 8 days from now. I can't kill Jones for refusing the fight on 8 days notice. Again, he should have taken the fight, but I can't kill him for saying no.

                The promoters are at fault for booking a card so fucking shallow, that it couldn't survive without the main event. This day was coming, and hopefully its a lesson. TOO MANY SHOWS, NOT ENOUGH STARS.

                I can't believe people are blaming a professional fighter, who makes his living by putting his body/life on the line in a fucking cage, for refusing a fight on a weeks notice. Mind boggling.
                They booked a main event. They still had a main event. The fighter refused. Thats what ended the show. The rest is subjective nonsense.

                Whos disagreeing with Zuffas retardedness on there recent show bookings ? Its been atrocious and shallow.

                Who can blame a professional fighter for not wanting to fight when he's scheduled to fight ?? Did you really just ask that ? Did the Sept 1st card JUST get booked ? Did Jon Jones JUST find out he had a fight ?

                Its not Jones' fault for the pay day. White should just man up and pay the few thousand.

                Once to all who are repeating. NAME THE LONG LIST of fighters who are already booked for a show who have refused to fight a replacement. Im not saying what Dana said was factual. I dont know of any fighter who has ever done this. If there are so many please list them since there are so many.

                I believe everyone was here and bashed Barnett and Affliction who closed there entire promotion, the ufc doesn't have that issue
                So why are you giving Jones a pass ?
                Best reason to have a license.

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                • Primetime
                  Thank You Prince
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 17526

                  Lol at Dana going on ESPN and claiming no fighter has ever refused a fight. It happened 3-4 times yesterday alone.

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                  • Liquidrob
                    Izzy is a bum
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 11785

                    Um, Jones isn't the reason the fight was scrapped, just like Fedor wasn't

                    Barnett was popped, Dan got hurt, can't blame Dan like Barnett but you can blame the ufc just like Affliction
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                    • Liquidrob
                      Izzy is a bum
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 11785

                      More lies and spin by Dana
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                      • Liquidrob
                        Izzy is a bum
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 11785

                        He was scheduled to fight Dan, it isn't an open contract to fight that night

                        Jones stance is clearly not to take a fight on 8 days notice, he wanted prep time, that's why he is fighting 3 weeks later

                        His coach wouldn't be there until today and would have one day to game plan, I think he should have taken an easy fight but that's his decision

                        Its only an issue now because they cancelled the show, they could have made a new ME with all the guys looking to fight
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                        • KINGOFOOTBALL
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2009
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                          Originally posted by Primetime
                          Lol at Dana going on ESPN and claiming no fighter has ever refused a fight. It happened 3-4 times yesterday alone.
                          You guys have a serious inability to read.

                          Saying no to matchmaking offers when youre negotiating or getting schedules =/= saying no to a replacement fight when your opponent us injured and you are on the main event.

                          Originally posted by Liquidrob
                          He was scheduled to fight Dan, it isn't an open contract to fight that night

                          Jones stance is clearly not to take a fight on 8 days notice, he wanted prep time, that's why he is fighting 3 weeks later

                          His coach wouldn't be there until today and would have one day to game plan, I think he should have taken an easy fight but that's his decision

                          Its only an issue now because they cancelled the show, they could have made a new ME with all the guys looking to fight
                          So its ok to not take a replacement fight on 8 days notice for lack of prep time.
                          But its not ok for Dana to cancel the show with 8 days notice for lack of promo time.

                          You dont see the hypocrisy there ?

                          So if Dan got hurt on the night of the show ala Ken Shamrock and Jones refused to fight a replacement. Then what ?...is it still Danas fault ?


                          I really dont give to flying fucks whats smart business whats smart strategy for a fighter etc.at this point. I am a fan first. Far as Im concerned I wanted to see Jon Jones fight ..those who paid for tix wanted to see Jones fight. He is the one that refused to fight and basically took himself off the card.

                          Do you really think we'd be having this discussion if Jones was hurt...you think Hendo refuses to fight ?
                          Best reason to have a license.

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                          • Liquidrob
                            Izzy is a bum
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 11785

                            You're not making sense, not sure what you're even trying to say
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                            • Primetime
                              Thank You Prince
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 17526

                              Originally posted by KINGOFOOTBALL
                              You guys have a serious inability to read.

                              Saying no to matchmaking offers when youre negotiating or getting schedules =/= saying no to a replacement fight when your opponent us injured and you are on the main event.
                              What does a phone interview with dana white have to do with an inability to read. He SAID no fighter in the history of the UFC has ever declined a fight. No more, no less.

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                              • KINGOFOOTBALL
                                Junior Member
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 10343

                                Originally posted by Liquidrob
                                You're not making sense, not sure what you're even trying to say
                                The promoters job was done.
                                He booked the main event. When the injury occurred he had a backup plan. Jones refused to fight.
                                That is on Jones and Jackson 100%. Now promoters have to plan backup main events in case a fighter refuses ? Danas only true stupidity was letting fighter have the final say once booked for a main event fight.

                                Putting it on Dana for not stacking the card , or not having a new Main Event is ridiculous. You guys are just piling on the Dana hate when it should be squarely on Jones.

                                Originally posted by Primetime
                                What does a phone interview with dana white have to do with an inability to read. He SAID no fighter in the history of the UFC has ever declined a fight. No more, no less.
                                Under what context ?

                                For the billionth time. Until someone shows it has. This seems to have never happened before. With the insane amount of fighter injuries and last minute changes why is this the first time this has come up ?
                                Best reason to have a license.

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