Report: Real Madrid agree to 40 mill buyout clause for Luis Suarez

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  • CaribbeanJoseph
    I Can Score Goals
    • Dec 2008
    • 5275

    #16
    Originally posted by Fappin Raptor
    CJ spouting more shit. Worst poster in this section.
    :cmpunk:

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    • mgoblue2290
      Posts too much
      • Feb 2009
      • 7174

      #17
      Lets not pretend the media is the reason. Dude wants to win above all else, that's why he wants to go to Madrid.

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      • CaribbeanJoseph
        I Can Score Goals
        • Dec 2008
        • 5275

        #18
        Originally posted by mgoblue2290
        Lets not pretend the media is the reason. Dude wants to win above all else, that's why he wants to go to Madrid.
        Every latin player dreams of playing for Madrid or Barca though. What he's said in the last few days isn't any different than what he's said in the past when asked about Madrid. The media very much has something to do with it, the way he has been vilified is disgraceful.

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        • kyhadley
          Carefree
          • Oct 2008
          • 6796

          #19
          Disgraceful? Ha! He's given plenty of reason to be villified, I mean he fucking bit another player. You could call it a bit over the top, but disgraceful is a bridge too far. There are plenty of other South American players that haven't made the waves he has.

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          • CaribbeanJoseph
            I Can Score Goals
            • Dec 2008
            • 5275

            #20
            Originally posted by kyhadley
            Disgraceful? Ha! He's given plenty of reason to be villified, I mean he fucking bit another player. You could call it a bit over the top, but disgraceful is a bridge too far. There are plenty of other South American players that haven't made the waves he has.
            It's been nothing short of disgraceful.

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            • kyhadley
              Carefree
              • Oct 2008
              • 6796

              #21
              Originally posted by CaribbeanJoseph
              It's been nothing short of disgraceful.
              Brilliant. Consider me convinced.

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              • CaribbeanJoseph
                I Can Score Goals
                • Dec 2008
                • 5275

                #22
                Originally posted by kyhadley
                Brilliant. Consider me convinced.
                I would expect that you would understand given the treatment Terry got for the same alleged offence but you are a Plastic so I'm probably expecting too much

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                • kyhadley
                  Carefree
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 6796

                  #23
                  Terry never bit anyone and hasn't missed near 20% of his games in England due to suspension. I wouldn't call his treatment quite disgraceful either, so there's no fucking way Suarez's treatment has been disgraceful. Nice one resorting to the plastic line by the way, hadn't heard that one in a while.

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                  • CaribbeanJoseph
                    I Can Score Goals
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 5275

                    #24
                    Originally posted by kyhadley
                    Terry never bit anyone and hasn't missed near 20% of his games in England due to suspension. I wouldn't call his treatment quite disgraceful either, so there's no fucking way Suarez's treatment has been disgraceful. Nice one resorting to the plastic line by the way, hadn't heard that one in a while.
                    Look at the difference between how Terry was treated and Suarez was for the same offence

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                    • calgaryballer
                      Tiote!
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 4620

                      #25
                      Now this thread has everything: calling people plastic fans (worst insult in sports), trying to defend Suarez by comparing him to a single other player, making up complete nonsense. Sounds like just another day with Liverpool fans

                      Suarez is a racist, diving, cheat. He has a pattern of biting people. He didn't 'mean' to insult Evra but for a guy who's been in Europe for a decade sure doesn't understand that you don't call European black men that, regardless of what you call them at home. Liverpool's tone deaf response to that incident certainly didn't win any friends in the media for Suarez. The media is pretty shitty in England, but it's that way for most players. Sure, JT gets a break because he's England captain, but that doesn't mean it's right.

                      As for the release clause, IT DOES EXIST. However, all it means is that Liverpool have to open negotiations and allow Suarez to do the same. They aren't forced to sell, which is where the £50m valuation is now coming from, flawed logic in it's own right, 'they paid us that much for Torres, so we need the same for Suarez'. Hopefully other clubs use that against them, 'you paid £35m for a guy with 15 goals to his name, surely you can afford that now'

                      As for plastic fans, that's the last bastion of the defeated. In England, more and more people are choosing to stay at home to enjoy matches. I don't even know where CJ lives, but I find it unlikely he's at Anfield every game

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                      • Anthony
                        In Brendan we trust.
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 5201

                        #26
                        Originally posted by calgaryballer
                        Now this thread has everything: calling people plastic fans (worst insult in sports), trying to defend Suarez by comparing him to a single other player, making up complete nonsense. Sounds like just another day with Liverpool fans

                        Suarez is a racist, diving, cheat. He has a pattern of biting people. He didn't 'mean' to insult Evra but for a guy who's been in Europe for a decade sure doesn't understand that you don't call European black men that, regardless of what you call them at home. Liverpool's tone deaf response to that incident certainly didn't win any friends in the media for Suarez. The media is pretty shitty in England, but it's that way for most players. Sure, JT gets a break because he's England captain, but that doesn't mean it's right.

                        As for the release clause, IT DOES EXIST. However, all it means is that Liverpool have to open negotiations and allow Suarez to do the same. They aren't forced to sell, which is where the £50m valuation is now coming from, flawed logic in it's own right, 'they paid us that much for Torres, so we need the same for Suarez'. Hopefully other clubs use that against them, 'you paid £35m for a guy with 15 goals to his name, surely you can afford that now'

                        As for plastic fans, that's the last bastion of the defeated. In England, more and more people are choosing to stay at home to enjoy matches. I don't even know where CJ lives, but I find it unlikely he's at Anfield every game
                        Fuck it. I started writing a really long response to this but I don't care anymore. You don't like Liverpool, you never have, no convincing you or anyone else otherwise. Hate on. Our future is bright for once finally, that's good enough for me.

                        But for me, sell Suarez. He's a brilliant player but he's brought a lot of this on himself. The media have been unrelenting but if he doesn't want to be at the club then sell him. No player is bigger than the club.

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                        • calgaryballer
                          Tiote!
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 4620

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Anthony
                          Fuck it. I started writing a really long response to this but I don't care anymore. You don't like Liverpool, you never have, no convincing you or anyone else otherwise. Hate on. Our future is bright for once finally, that's good enough for me.

                          But for me, sell Suarez. He's a brilliant player but he's brought a lot of this on himself. The media have been unrelenting but if he doesn't want to be at the club then sell him. No player is bigger than the club.
                          It's not even that I dislike Liverpool. I quite like some of their players and think Rodgers is doing good work. I primarily hate CJ and other conspiratorial Liverpool fans. There is a core group of 10ish football posters here, and only one stands out with his incredibly non-constructive and useless posts

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                          • Anthony
                            In Brendan we trust.
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 5201

                            #28
                            Originally posted by calgaryballer
                            It's not even that I dislike Liverpool. I quite like some of their players and think Rodgers is doing good work. I primarily hate CJ and other conspiratorial Liverpool fans. There is a core group of 10ish football posters here, and only one stands out with his incredibly non-constructive and useless posts
                            Most of my response was devoted to the idea that Liverpool supporters are paranoid. Liverpool as a city is paranoid and have very good reason to be. Paranoia is in their blood. From being considered dirty immigrants, to being left for dead after WW2, to Thatcher believing the citizens were a drain on the economy and they should be left to decline, to the government suppressing the truth about Hillsborough and placing the blame on Scousers.

                            Liverpool citizens and supporters have many reasons to be paranoid many of which are valid.

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                            • f16harm
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                              • Feb 2009
                              • 2183

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Anthony
                              Most of my response was devoted to the idea that Liverpool supporters are paranoid. Liverpool as a city is paranoid and have very good reason to be. Paranoia is in their blood. From being considered dirty immigrants, to being left for dead after WW2, to Thatcher believing the citizens were a drain on the economy and they should be left to decline, to the government suppressing the truth about Hillsborough and placing the blame on Scousers.

                              Liverpool citizens and supporters have many reasons to be paranoid many of which are valid.
                              How come you didn't touch on the part were LFC bought all of the homes/land around Anfield, which was once beautiful and upscale, and has now turned it into a shitty neighborhood filled with empty, boarded up homes so that no one would be around the training fields and stadium?

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                              • Anthony
                                In Brendan we trust.
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 5201

                                #30
                                Originally posted by f16harm
                                How come you didn't touch on the part were LFC bought all of the homes/land around Anfield, which was once beautiful and upscale, and has now turned it into a shitty neighborhood filled with empty, boarded up homes so that no one would be around the training fields and stadium?
                                While LFC buying homes and doing nothing with them is a stain on the club (although the club doesn't own that many houses to begin with), the property was bought up for future expansion and regeneration. They bought what they could yet some owners refused to sell. Those left behind were stuck living in half empty neighborhoods (again not all of which is down to the club buying homes), and having not bought all the property the club couldn't do anything with the area around the stadium. The reality is, the Liverpool City Council is responsible for the up keep of the area, not LFC.

                                I would never call the area around the stadium "beautiful and upscale". They're all terraced houses many of which had been falling apart for some time long before the club started buying up property. The city failed to keep the area adequately funded. Futhermore, many of the houses that are boarded up in the area, aren't even owned by the club. They're owned by people holding out for the best price knowing someone would end up paying over the odds. These days the council is working with homeowners to buy the property so that the area can finally undergo the regeneration it needs.

                                Your last bit made no sense. The training ground is located at Melwood in West Derby.
                                Last edited by Anthony; 06-02-2013, 04:30 PM.

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