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  • BigBiss
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1912

    #31
    Its really cool I can say I have had meaningful conversation with over a 10th of this list ... that blows my mind at times

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    • Warner2BruceTD
      2011 Poster Of The Year
      • Mar 2009
      • 26142

      #32
      Originally posted by BigBiss
      Its really cool I can say I have had meaningful conversation with over a 10th of this list ... that blows my mind at times
      Which list? Pretty impressive if it's mine vs Larry's since mine is like 40% Japanese due to my hipster tastes.

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      • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
        Highwayman
        • Feb 2009
        • 15429

        #33
        Originally posted by s@ppisgod
        Larry, only real problem I have with your list is Jericho over Angle. What's the deal? As a starting point, Angle vs. hBK IMO was worlds better than Jericho/HBK.
        Love Angle...I just prefer Jericho. Angle's run in TNA doesn't help his cause. He's spent most of the best years of his career in the purgatory known as TNA...the past SEVEN (!!) years...and he's got maybe five good matches to show for it. Jericho returns to the WWE after a tour with Fozzy and has five good matches in his first month back. Angle was full speed ahead as a true all-timer. The time in TNA has sullied him a bit, IMO.

        He was one of the quickest learns in the history of wrestling. He showed up...a few months later, he was legitimately one of the best in the world. He has his falling out with the WWE, goes to TNA and outside of his matches with Joe, a cage match with Mr. Anderson, a match or two with Styles, and a match or two with Nigel...meh. And, honestly, outside of the cage match with Anderson and his matches with Joe, he's had some good matches, but I couldn't give you details on them.

        To be fair, in 2013, I thought I was overrating Kurt Angle a little bit, because its actually been so long since he's been consistently great. I loved Angle in the WWE and definitely look at him with rose colored glasses. But, Jericho is my nigga and I can't recall the last time he's been off his game.

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        • Warner2BruceTD
          2011 Poster Of The Year
          • Mar 2009
          • 26142

          #34
          Don't "Ladainian Tomlinson" Angle's career. Dude was the fucking truth from the day he stepped in a ring until well into his TNA run.

          The guy can barely move. He legit can't turn his neck anymore. He can mail it in from here to eternity from this point forward and I don't care. But even as recently as last year, he was killing it in tag matches with Styles.

          I considered him for #1 but the peak was too short. I'm not ripping you for having hi at 12 or whatever, to each his own and that's pretty damn high, but I just had to defend him. He's a beast.

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          • Warner2BruceTD
            2011 Poster Of The Year
            • Mar 2009
            • 26142

            #35
            Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
            But, Jericho is my nigga and I can't recall the last time he's been off his game.
            This last run, particularly towards the end, was the first time I thought he's slipped a bit in ring. I thought the RVD matches were overrated by some (some of that is on RVD) and i've seen other people have better matches with Fandango. Fandango looked like a greenhorn at Mania with Jericho, but then looked great in TV matches with people like Punk & even recently with Kofi & Killings who aren't exactly known for carrying dues.

            Don't get me wrong, I like Jericho a lot, but we're splitting hairs here. This is what we do in this uppity thread.

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            • BigBiss
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 1912

              #36
              14 on yours 7 on larry's

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              • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                Highwayman
                • Feb 2009
                • 15429

                #37
                Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                This last run, particularly towards the end, was the first time I thought he's slipped a bit in ring. I thought the RVD matches were overrated by some (some of that is on RVD) and i've seen other people have better matches with Fandango. Fandango looked like a greenhorn at Mania with Jericho, but then looked great in TV matches with people like Punk & even recently with Kofi & Killings who aren't exactly known for carrying dues.

                Don't get me wrong, I like Jericho a lot, but we're splitting hairs here. This is what we do in this uppity thread.
                During this last run...he came in and immediately had good matches. Then he got put into a program with Fandango, and it was legitimately, Fandangos first few matches of his WWE career. Then he worked with Ryback...not even Punk can have good matches with Ryback. In between, he had some good matches with Ziggler. A good one with Punk.

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                • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                  Highwayman
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 15429

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                  Don't "Ladainian Tomlinson" Angle's career. Dude was the fucking truth from the day he stepped in a ring until well into his TNA run.

                  The guy can barely move. He legit can't turn his neck anymore. He can mail it in from here to eternity from this point forward and I don't care. But even as recently as last year, he was killing it in tag matches with Styles.

                  I considered him for #1 but the peak was too short. I'm not ripping you for having hi at 12 or whatever, to each his own and that's pretty damn high, but I just had to defend him. He's a beast.
                  Angle's peak was legit...he was awesome. But it was so short. His TNA run has some highlights but they are merely speckled around that seven years. I don't even blame Angle so much (maybe a little, because he has always basically hand picked who he wrestles and feuds with in TNA)...there have been numerous guys that have trended upward at some point and then got TNA'd. I try not to use it too much against them, but at the top, I'm splitting hairs.

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                  • s@ppisgod
                    No longer a noob
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1032

                    #39
                    Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                    Love Angle...I just prefer Jericho. Angle's run in TNA doesn't help his cause. He's spent most of the best years of his career in the purgatory known as TNA...the past SEVEN (!!) years...and he's got maybe five good matches to show for it. Jericho returns to the WWE after a tour with Fozzy and has five good matches in his first month back. Angle was full speed ahead as a true all-timer. The time in TNA has sullied him a bit, IMO.

                    He was one of the quickest learns in the history of wrestling. He showed up...a few months later, he was legitimately one of the best in the world. He has his falling out with the WWE, goes to TNA and outside of his matches with Joe, a cage match with Mr. Anderson, a match or two with Styles, and a match or two with Nigel...meh. And, honestly, outside of the cage match with Anderson and his matches with Joe, he's had some good matches, but I couldn't give you details on them.

                    To be fair, in 2013, I thought I was overrating Kurt Angle a little bit, because its actually been so long since he's been consistently great. I loved Angle in the WWE and definitely look at him with rose colored glasses. But, Jericho is my nigga and I can't recall the last time he's been off his game.
                    Angle didn't have amazing matches throughout his TNA run, but he was fully capable of them. Just had the deck unstacked (?) against him. His matches with Joe were great. His matches with Styles were great. He had two really good title matches against Kaz and Jay Lethal. The Desmond Wolfe feud was solid while it lasted. But before that, he was one of the best for 6-7 years in WWE. He could carry a match better than Jericho IMO. And the intensity he brought to big matches is something sorely missed in a lot of WWE's big matches, sans maybe Punk or Danielson.

                    Jericho definitely has him on longevity and consistency, but I think Angle was the brighter star that burned out faster.

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                    • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                      Highwayman
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 15429

                      #40
                      Originally posted by s@ppisgod
                      Angle didn't have amazing matches throughout his TNA run, but he was fully capable of them. Just had the deck unstacked (?) against him. His matches with Joe were great. His matches with Styles were great. He had two really good title matches against Kaz and Jay Lethal. The Desmond Wolfe feud was solid while it lasted. But before that, he was one of the best for 6-7 years in WWE. He could carry a match better than Jericho IMO. And the intensity he brought to big matches is something sorely missed in a lot of WWE's big matches, sans maybe Punk or Danielson.

                      Jericho definitely has him on longevity and consistency, but I think Angle was the brighter star that burned out faster.
                      I don't disagree with that synopsis...I actually agree.

                      But, if I could sit on an island and watch someone for all eternity...I got like 20+ years of Jericho all over the world and like...8 of Kurt Angle, mostly in the WWE and a few TNA matches.

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                      • s@ppisgod
                        No longer a noob
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1032

                        #41
                        Can't forget his epic match with Sting where he tried a 450 (!) splash and ended up double foot-stomping Sting in the stomach, followed by busting his face open the hard way with a bat. Sloppy Angle was sloppy.

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                        • s@ppisgod
                          No longer a noob
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1032

                          #42
                          Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                          I don't disagree with that synopsis...I actually agree.

                          But, if I could sit on an island and watch someone for all eternity...I got like 20+ years of Jericho all over the world and like...8 of Kurt Angle, mostly in the WWE and a few TNA matches.
                          Fair enough.

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