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[ALL] '12 Fall Gaming Season

Here's my question, Maynard, are you ever happy with anything?

Whats wrong with his post? It brings up a fairly obvious question. Where's all the original idea's gone? Or is everyone now waiting for next gen?

Look at that list. Almost everything is a sequel or using an old idea.
 
Whats wrong with his post? It brings up a fairly obvious question. Where's all the original idea's gone? Or is everyone now waiting for next gen?

Look at that list. Almost everything is a sequel or using an old idea.

Nothing was wrong with his post, it was a serious question.

And that's exactly what I pointed out, everyone is waiting on the next-gen that is right around the corner. Why put out a brand new IP now? Makes more sense to wait until next fall and put it out with the new consoles. People will be buying and playing your game for a lot longer that way. Most people don't go trying to find games for previous gen consoles. Putting it out with the new generation keeps that game on the shelf and in the minds of gamers looking for a game to buy for a lot longer in my opinion.

And pointing to Maynard's post again, I guess I differ from you in the fact that a good story really pulls me in.
 
I agree but everyone wants more borderlands....halo 4 is 4 years after halo 3....racing games come out every year and most wanted 2 is a sequel from 5 years ago.

Making games has gotten way too expensive and the price of games have stayed the same. Developers are staying with sequels cause they can count on a certain number of copies being sold. I swear we had this discussion already.
 
idk man, i see these games and think about the fact that i have played all of them before. take any sports game and of course they are always going to be the same thing over and over...but something like halo 4 which is going to be the same game as reach, halo 3 and so on...some new additions will be added, but its still the same principle. plus its part of an over saturated genre (shooter) thats flooded with repeat games like BF and COD

take a game like AC...its like the 4th or 5th game in the series now. how many times can enzo run around doing the same high flying acrobats with breathe taking draw distance. yes i know its alot more than that, but its still the same game

stories dont fill the void (a least not for me)...take Mass Effect 3 - the game was a poorly done knock off of ME2 and the story can not save the game from the utter disappointment of the gameplay and rpg aspects of that game. it was nothing more than a add on to ME2 and was dull and boring.

if you have never played a game in a series before then i can see it being fresh, but i dont understand how people can just accept this greedy developer mentality where they just keep spewing out the same game over and over with a few tacked on new features to justify a $60 price tag. Saying its the end of a generation is garbage imo because this EA/Activision Model has been in place for this entire generation

look at that list of games this fall....where is our list of kick ass winter games for the xmas season? i guess i am in the minority, but i think you guys are settling for 2nd rate efforts and still paying the full price for it

At least as far as AC goes, this is not Ezio, they are going to a different character and are ending the original trilogy arc they set out from the beginning.

But AC is a good example of something starting slow. The idea behind it received rave reviews, and the graphics were good and it was an original idea. But it failed in it's execution, being extremely repetitive and it took another game for the series to really take off. We would never have a great series if it wasn't for a sequel to a game that fell short of expectations.

I'll say ME3 seems more like an extension of ME2, but not to the point that you are saying it. But it was also clear from 2 that they were moving away from a RPG aspect and into more of a shooter game that had a good/bad character choice in it to move the story.

It just seems to me that story doesn't do it for you on its own, and that is OK. I'm buying Halo 4 not just for the multiplayer, but because it is going to be a fresh single player campaign with a story moving in a different direction and it looks like it will be a good one.
 
Nothing was wrong with his post, it was a serious question.

And that's exactly what I pointed out, everyone is waiting on the next-gen that is right around the corner. Why put out a brand new IP now? Makes more sense to wait until next fall and put it out with the new consoles. People will be buying and playing your game for a lot longer that way. Most people don't go trying to find games for previous gen consoles. Putting it out with the new generation keeps that game on the shelf and in the minds of gamers looking for a game to buy for a lot longer in my opinion.

And pointing to Maynard's post again, I guess I differ from you in the fact that a good story really pulls me in.

LOL What?
 
Nothing was wrong with his post, it was a serious question.

And that's exactly what I pointed out, everyone is waiting on the next-gen that is right around the corner. Why put out a brand new IP now? Makes more sense to wait until next fall and put it out with the new consoles. People will be buying and playing your game for a lot longer that way. Most people don't go trying to find games for previous gen consoles. Putting it out with the new generation keeps that game on the shelf and in the minds of gamers looking for a game to buy for a lot longer in my opinion.

And pointing to Maynard's post again, I guess I differ from you in the fact that a good story really pulls me in.

Which I also agree on, unless you have a really strong idea like God of War was, it's just not going to work. They really perfected the second game on PS2, and it looked the same as many next gen games when it was released.
 
take a game like AC...its like the 4th or 5th game in the series now. how many times can enzo run around doing the same high flying acrobats with breathe taking draw distance. yes i know its alot more than that, but its still the same game
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:walker: It is a brand new character and a brand new story.
 
I've said it like 3 times on here, but it just isn't very financially smart for big companies to take the risk on new IPs. I am sure the success rate for sequels financially is monumentally higher than the average for new IPs. Considering how long it takes and how incredibly expensive it is to make premier games, I don't really feel too upset anymore with the amount of sequels coming out.

There is certainly blatant money-grabbing like some sequels are obviously guilty of, but at the same time it just makes a lot more business sense to go with a new rendition of a proven success.
 
My list, and its the biggest its been in a couple years.

August

Sleeping Dogs – August 14
Madden NFL 13 – August 28

September

NHL 13 - September 11
Borderlands 2 – September 18
FIFA 13 -- September 25

October

Medal of Honor: Warfighter – October 23
Assassin's Creed III – October 30

November

Hitman: Absolution - November 20
 
If they didn't sell they wouldn't make them...alot of people enjoy them and some don't.

top 40 music sells, it doesnt mean its good...my point being that its basically turned into a copy and paste industry, much like the top 40 radio or any industry that makes a product for cheap and sells it for profit. we are being sold an iferior product because they are taking the same game from the previous version and slapping on a new cover.

It is a brand new character and a brand new story.

i know that...im just using it as a general example. its not like you dont see what i mean....just look at the fall list
 
I didn't realize that NHL-Borderlands-FIFA came out in 3 consecutive weeks......of course those are the only 3 that I'm getting, agh.
 
Probably picking up on day 1

Madden
Nba 2k
Assassins Creed 3
nhl

getting eventually

Resident Evil 6
Sleeping Dogs
Mario Bros 2

Maybe
Nascaar
 
I dont know why but after playing Fallout 3 me and my friends just couldnt get into borderlands. As much as everyone like it maybe i should give it another shot
 
I dont know why but after playing Fallout 3 me and my friends just couldnt get into borderlands. As much as everyone like it maybe i should give it another shot

You should get new friends and then punch yourself in the face.

Are they Vikings fans too? ;)
 
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