2013 Cincinnati Reds Thread

[Warner2BruceTD]

Votto addresses the "They aren't paying him to walk!" nonsense:

 

[Rudi]

holy shit, I roll out of bed after a long night to see CORKY MILLER has been recalled from Louisville

I'd say theres a good chance we see this man behind the plate tomorrow. I'd think he may be familiar most with Cingrani, plus Meso needs a blow.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Joel Luckhaupt ‏@jluckhaupt
Marshall & Broxton were only #Reds pitchers with a higher GB% than Manny Parra in '12. The IF defense behind him just improved dramatically.

Joel Luckhaupt ‏@jluckhaupt
The only thing NOT to like about Parra is his walk rate, but that's why we have Bryan Price and @mackjenkins57


C'mon Luckhaupt, Parra stinks.

Forget the walks (which are obscene), he gives up a million hits, too. His career WHIP is 1.645. He gives up a ton of runs as a result.

I don't want this guy on the MLB roster. He's slightly more useful than Redmond, because he's a LH RP and the Reds only had Marshall. But he stinks.

Called this shit in February.

I want Manny Parra off of this team. He needs to be released in two days when Marshall comes back.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Good Dusty: Not letting Cingrani come out for the 5th, despite only 85 pitches and two runs. He didn't have good stuff and was a disaster waiting to happen.

Bad Dusty: Leaving Alfredo Simon in the game to sac bunt, something he's never done in the majors, despite knowing he was starting the next inning with LeCure. If he was dead set on bunting, and not wanting to burn another player, pinch hit with Leake or another starting pitcher.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

two things..

-I would send Cingrani down when Cueto comes back. Leake is league average, and league average doesn't hurt you at all (it actually is a pretty big advantage) from the #5 starter spot. Cingrani would be better served long term to work on his secondary stuff in AAA as opposed to the majors on a team that is contending. If the team was bad, i'd keep him around. If Leake was dreadful, i'd keep him around. Neither is the case, so the Reds have the luxury of sending him down and knowing they have a legit option to turn to if/when somebody else gets hurt or if Leake goes to shit.

-Sign Choo. Duh. BUT..3 years max. He probably wants more. But if you can get him for three years, do it. Arroyo comes off the books ($11.5M), plus Choo is already making $4M (from the Reds), so that's $15-$16M to play with. Plus, Votto takes a gigantic pay cut to $12M next season. So more than enough money is there, without even raising payroll a single penny.

-IF you sign Choo, you have to consider trading Hamilton. Nobody wants to hear this, but it's true. If you can get an impact player for him (like a power hitting LF), you probably have to do it. You could always keep Hamilton around, even if you sign Choo, and move Choo to LF. Ludwick only has one more year before they can buy him out.

-If you can't sign Choo, I think you still listen to offers for Hamilton, but ultimately you keep him and at least give him a shot to win the job next year. You don't go a decade with a giant hole a leadoff, cock tease the fans with one year of Choo, then plug it back with another black hole without at least giving Hamilton a chance since his ceiling is a game changing dynamic player.

The last thing I want to hear is "untouchable", because no prospect geek should be truly untouchable unless you have Mike Trout or Bryce Harper. Billy Hamilton is not untouchable.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Just as I finish typing that...

The Reds on Monday revealed an alteration to their rotation for the upcoming roadtrip:

At Miami

Tues: RHP Homer Bailey
Weds: RHP Mike Leake
Thur: RHP Mat Latos

At Philadelphia

Fri: LHP Tony Cingrani
Sat: RHP Bronson Arroyo
Sun: RHP Homer Bailey

Essentially, Latos and Cingrani have flip-flopped spots.

I had been thinking that Johnny Cueto, who is throwing in a rehab assignment game on Tuesday at Class A Dayton, could return as soon as Sunday vs. the Phillies. At least according to this schedule, that will not apparently happen that way. It makes me wonder, however, if Cueto will eventually go into Leake’s spot since that would put him back in front of Latos like it was to begin the season. I guess we shall soon find out. Cueto has to successfully get through his second start at Dayton first.

Could mean Leake is going to Louisville like the article suggests, or it could just mean that with the day off, Baker & Price are moving Latos up a day, because you want to get your best pitcher(s) the most starts possible, and a lot of managers do this after a day off. Thing is, Baker almost NEVER does this, and usually just sticks to the rotation no matter what.

It also means Cingrani vs Jose Fernandez Part II will not happen. I was looking forward to that. Oh well.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Actually, just thought of this, but the Phillies have a very heavy lefty lineup, plus the Marlins have seen Cingrani already.

Maybe everybody is reading into the swap too much. The above makes the most sense.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

 

[Slateman]

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

That Cingrani gif has become legendary on Reds blogs.

Top 8, two on, protecting a slim lead in his first relief appearance. Dusty tossed him right in the fire. Crowd was amped and ke K'd two to get out of the inning.