*2013 Trade Deadline Thread*

[Warner2BruceTD]

June 20th, might as well get this baby going.

All deals, rumors, fake trades, wish lists, etc go here.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Reds needs: bullpen help (preferably right handed), right handed bench bat

Would love to get Jesse Crain, who is awesome, but i'd imagine the price is too high for a team that has moved most of their high & mid level prospects the last two years or so and is now a middle of the pack farm system.

I'd settle for teammate Nate Jones, who despite the high ERA (5.00) actually has better peripherals than last season, when he put up a very respectable 2.39. I'm thinking he would come cheaper due to the high ERA, plus despite being only a second year guy he's already 27 so I doubt the White Sox are enamoured with him.

Fed, what's your take on Jones? Would they move him for a C or D level A-ball guy?

 

[Goober]

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Glen Perkins should be a hot name. Twins have to be thrilled with how well he's thrown.

 

[EmpireWF]

- Shaun Marcum -- Pitching on a one-year deal, he has just under 60 IP so far and a 0-9 record (despite his 5.76 ERA, he has not been that bad). It's been more a case of running into bad luck than him not pitching well. He still has 8.0 SO/9 and only 2.3 BB/9, so he can help someone who needs a veteran arm in the rotation.

He'll only cost about $2M (half of the $4M he's owed) plus the bonuses he may earn (for such things as innings pitched and days on the active roster without an injury to his right arm).

- Marlon Byrd -- Also, in the same sense as Marcum, a veteran player who can help out a team contending for the playoffs. Byrd was signed to a minor league deal and is only making $700k this year as he proves he's still a major leaguer. He's been a stable presence in right field, with decent defense and some pop in his bat. 11 HR, 33 RBI, 9 2B so far.

Would be a fine addition to a team in need of a 4th OF, perhaps even an everyday RF on a team with enough firepower elsewhere in the line-up.




As for they younger guys, it's all about acquiring a legit big bat in the outfield. The names bandied about in the media have always been Giancarlo Stanton (Miami won't trade him, and they'd want Wheeler and a lot more I believe) and Carlos Gonzalez (Colorado in the playoff chase keeps this from being a fit). Other names in the media, lesser names, include Andre Ether and Carlos Quentin and neither of whom would require a guy like Bobby Parnell (who Alderson says is not part of trade talks apparently) or the big arms on the farm such as Noah Syndergaard or Rafael Montero.

Wheeler is untouchable, D'Arnaud is probably, too. I'd hope Syndergaard is, but I would definitely consider moving Montero in a package for a OF bat.

 

[Slateman]

I gotta think the Tigers are the front runners for getting bullpen help. Maybe Rondon can close, but Benoit and Smyly are the only reliable relievers.

 

[Goober]

- Shaun Marcum -- Pitching on a one-year deal, he has just under 60 IP so far and a 0-9 record (despite his 5.76 ERA, he has not been that bad). It's been more a case of running into bad luck than him not pitching well. He still has 8.0 SO/9 and only 2.3 BB/9, so he can help someone who needs a veteran arm in the rotation.

He'll only cost about $2M (half of the $4M he's owed) plus the bonuses he may earn (for such things as innings pitched and days on the active roster without an injury to his right arm).

- Marlon Byrd -- Also, in the same sense as Marcum, a veteran player who can help out a team contending for the playoffs. Byrd was signed to a minor league deal and is only making $700k this year as he proves he's still a major leaguer. He's been a stable presence in right field, with decent defense and some pop in his bat. 11 HR, 33 RBI, 9 2B so far.

Would be a fine addition to a team in need of a 4th OF, perhaps even an everyday RF on a team with enough firepower elsewhere in the line-up.




As for they younger guys, it's all about acquiring a legit big bat in the outfield. The names bandied about in the media have always been Giancarlo Stanton (Miami won't trade him, and they'd want Wheeler and a lot more I believe) and Carlos Gonzalez (Colorado in the playoff chase keeps this from being a fit). Other names in the media, lesser names, include Andre Ether and Carlos Quentin and neither of whom would require a guy like Bobby Parnell (who Alderson says is not part of trade talks apparently) or the big arms on the farm such as Noah Syndergaard or Rafael Montero.

Wheeler is untouchable, D'Arnaud is probably, too. I'd hope Syndergaard is, but I would definitely consider moving Montero in a package for a OF bat.

New York Mets, apparently looking to turn shit into gold.

 

[Woy]

Bench bats, bench bats, and bench bats. Can't go into the home stretch with Shane Robinson and Ty Wigginton as your top RH bats coming off the bench. Granted, guys like Oscar Taveras and Kolten Wong would provide an instant jolt off the bench when they come up in August/September, but both are left-handed.

Another reliever - preferably right-handed - would be nice too.

 

[NAHSTE]

Cubs have begun exchanging names. Braves need a LHP reliever and could target James Russell.

:giveit:

 

[MVPete]

- Shaun Marcum -- Pitching on a one-year deal, he has just under 60 IP so far and a 0-9 record (despite his 5.76 ERA, he has not been that bad). It's been more a case of running into bad luck than him not pitching well. He still has 8.0 SO/9 and only 2.3 BB/9, so he can help someone who needs a veteran arm in the rotation.

He'll only cost about $2M (half of the $4M he's owed) plus the bonuses he may earn (for such things as innings pitched and days on the active roster without an injury to his right arm).

- Marlon Byrd -- Also, in the same sense as Marcum, a veteran player who can help out a team contending for the playoffs. Byrd was signed to a minor league deal and is only making $700k this year as he proves he's still a major leaguer. He's been a stable presence in right field, with decent defense and some pop in his bat. 11 HR, 33 RBI, 9 2B so far.

Would be a fine addition to a team in need of a 4th OF, perhaps even an everyday RF on a team with enough firepower elsewhere in the line-up.




As for they younger guys, it's all about acquiring a legit big bat in the outfield. The names bandied about in the media have always been Giancarlo Stanton (Miami won't trade him, and they'd want Wheeler and a lot more I believe) and Carlos Gonzalez (Colorado in the playoff chase keeps this from being a fit). Other names in the media, lesser names, include Andre Ether and Carlos Quentin and neither of whom would require a guy like Bobby Parnell (who Alderson says is not part of trade talks apparently) or the big arms on the farm such as Noah Syndergaard or Rafael Montero.

Wheeler is untouchable, D'Arnaud is probably, too. I'd hope Syndergaard is, but I would definitely consider moving Montero in a package for a OF bat.

Are you fucking kidding me with these names? When did moneyman change his username?

 

[NAHSTE]

Carlos Gonzalez (Colorado in the playoff chase keeps this from being a fit).

Oh just that, and not the fact that he's probably the best outfielder in the NL right now?

 

[MVPete]

Glen Perkins should be a hot name. Twins have to be thrilled with how well he's thrown.

Perkins should land the Twins something good, he's relatively cheap and signed through 2016. I'd expect teams that are on a tight budget like the Crads, Braves, Orioles, Rays, and Reds to be inquiring about him.

 

[NAHSTE]

Gotta believe Alex Rios will be the top OF on the market. Playing well and he's got an affordable short term deal. Signed through one more year at $12.5 million, then a 13M team option with a 1 million buyout tacked on.

 

[FedEx227]

Reds needs: bullpen help (preferably right handed), right handed bench bat

Would love to get Jesse Crain, who is awesome, but i'd imagine the price is too high for a team that has moved most of their high & mid level prospects the last two years or so and is now a middle of the pack farm system.

I'd settle for teammate Nate Jones, who despite the high ERA (5.00) actually has better peripherals than last season, when he put up a very respectable 2.39. I'm thinking he would come cheaper due to the high ERA, plus despite being only a second year guy he's already 27 so I doubt the White Sox are enamoured with him.

Fed, what's your take on Jones? Would they move him for a C or D level A-ball guy?

They would absolutely move him for a C or D guy. He's been ridiculously unlucky so far this season. 54% LOB% is just not going to sustain all year, that's going to go back to normal rates and his ERA will plummet. I hadn't heard about him much in Chicago, have you heard his name brought up by other fans or Reds fans specifically?

The big gets (bullpen-wise) would be Thornton and Crain. Crain is coming to be the hardest to come by but could probably go with a B prospect and Thornton a C. Jones is interesting, if someone would offer at him I think they'd be completely open to it since he's essentially a peaked bullpen arm.

 

[MVPete]

Jones delivery looks very similar to Tommy Hanson's, they both separate their hand from the glove super early and bring it up and hold the ball above their head the entire time before releasing.

This has nothing to do with trade rumors but who cares.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

RE: The Mets and Empire's post

Before the start of the season, the Mets and Marlins talked about Stanton. The Marlins wanted Wheeler and d'Arnaud.

FWIW...I'd make that trade. I think Wheeler will be special, but Stanton is special, too. If I could sign Big Mike to a zillion year contract, I'd do that trade immediately if I were the Mets.

 

[MVPete]

RE: The Mets and Empire's post

Before the start of the season, the Mets and Marlins talked about Stanton. The Marlins wanted Wheeler and d'Arnaud.

FWIW...I'd make that trade. I think Wheeler will be special, but Stanton is special, too. If I could sign Big Mike to a zillion year contract, I'd do that trade immediately if I were the Mets.

Ya that would be a solid trade for both, but that would put the Mets back at square 1 wouldn't it? They'd have the big bat they've wanted but then their future pitching takes a hit. I think they'd be better off just keeping those guys and splurging in free agency on a guy like Ellsbury, Granderson, or Choo.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

They would absolutely move him for a C or D guy. He's been ridiculously unlucky so far this season. 54% LOB% is just not going to sustain all year, that's going to go back to normal rates and his ERA will plummet. I hadn't heard about him much in Chicago, have you heard his name brought up by other fans or Reds fans specifically?

The big gets (bullpen-wise) would be Thornton and Crain. Crain is coming to be the hardest to come by but could probably go with a B prospect and Thornton a C. Jones is interesting, if someone would offer at him I think they'd be completely open to it since he's essentially a peaked bullpen arm.

Haven't heard Jones's name anywhere. Reds fans have been clamoring for Crain, but I don't think he's realistic. They've traded something like a dozen players (mostly minor leaguers) the last two years for Latos, Broxton, Marshall, & Choo. So they don't have a ton of those B-level guys left who you can package together. In terms of anything with value, they basically have Cingrani & Hamilton, and then a bunch of lower level A-ball guys. So to me, Jones is a more realistic target because I don't get the sense it would take a whole lot to get him.

 

[FedEx227]

Yeah, Cingrani will work. Thanks!

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Valverde DFA'd today.

Tigers will obviously be aggressive for relief help. Name that keeps popping up is Papelbon.