Dude I guarentee have the ppl on here haven't even touched live so why judge it and go off of others opinons. Play the game for yourself b4 judging it. Like I am a 2k guy as well, but really all the features that Live has like up 2 date presentation, and they signed Mike Wang who was part of the 2k crew, so who is 2 say Live will be a bad game. I honestly could care less abt the career mode that 2k is bringing in, and 2 me 2k seems 2 copy alot of what Live does. 2k always waits 2 put out info a couple days after Live puts out info, for example the LeBron throwing up the chalk was brought out first by Live, then 2 days later "ohhh 2k has LeBron throwing up chalk and it looks bttr than Live." Then EA alreadys has be a pro mode for most of it's sports games, then "oh 2k brought out a career mode, oh shit looks bttr than Live" when it honestly looks the same as 2k9. I am not saying Live will be bttr or that 2k will be bttr but I think we should all rent both games first 2 see how they play?? I know I might get alot of shit for this, but I could care less =]