49ers,Seahawks, just defense ?

[ram29jackson]

are we supposed to believe these teams have a chance for a super bowl run with these sorry QBs ?

I don't care about the tough defense debate junk. It helps but not when QBs suck this bad. All they did was cancel each other out this past week and not because they are both great, its because they both aren't that good(teams)...at least not championship worthy good. How can you be great when your game planning is to blatantly keep your QB's from being involved?



and what the hell is he doing with this blatant "I'm cool" self promotion .

 

[Aso]

Yeah these QB's are sorry because they didn't throw for 400 yds and 3 tds against a couple of the best defenses in the league. In fact these teams aren't even that good. Thanks for showing me the light.

 

[NAHSTE]

Neither QB has a Super Bowl ring so neither is elite. Thus neither will ever win a Super Bowl. Thus neither can ever be elite.

And if one of them does so happen to win a Super Bowl, they will only have done so because of their defense so thus neither can ever be elite.

 

[ram29jackson]

Yeah these QB's are sorry because they didn't throw for 400 yds and 3 tds against a couple of the best defenses in the league. In fact these teams aren't even that good. Thanks for showing me the light.

Kaepernick isn't good and its been proven this year after so many games, he's still learning. Wilson is supposedly better than him and looked just as pedestrian ( yes, I will let him share the blame with his average receivers)

 

[ram29jackson]

Neither QB has a Super Bowl l ring so neither is elite. Thus neither will ever win a Super Bowl. Thus neither can ever be elite.

And if one of them does so happen to win a Super Bowl, they will only have done so because of their defense so thus neither can ever be elite.

LOL i'm just talking about the here and now. I think they can-like anyone else- improve over time. I'm not talking about elite, just presently functional

 

[Maynard]

why does it seem like there is always a post from rams about how he doesnt like kap or wilson...oh wait, its cause he always makes the same posts about how he doesnt like kap or wilson

 

[Villain]

why does it seem like there is always a post from rams about how he doesnt like kap or wilson...oh wait, its cause he always makes the same posts about how he doesnt like kap or wilson

Well.... Is he completely wrong?

 

[ram29jackson]

why does it seem like there is always a post from rams about how he doesnt like kap or wilson...oh wait, its cause he always makes the same posts about how he doesnt like kap or wilson

I hate no one, they have every chance for long successful careers. But I do not respect QBs that young being very successful as a majority. Its obvious Kaep isn't that good whether I like him or not. Wilson I don't know about yet.

 

[Aso]

I hate no one, they have every chance for long successful careers. But I do not respect QBs that young being very successful as a majority. Its obvious Kaep isn't that good whether I like him or not. Wilson I don't know about yet.

I don't think you even watch the games. The 49ers have played conservatively on offense this season without Crabtree and really have only thrown the ball to Vernon Davis and Anquan Boldin. They've barely even attempted to throw it to anyone else. Seems like they are playing more conservative offensively this season than they were under Alex Smith. Pretty difficult to say he sucks when he's playing in an offense like this. But yeah Kaep sucks.

 

[ram29jackson]

I don't think you even watch the games. The 49ers have played conservatively on offense this season without Crabtree and really have only thrown the ball to Vernon Davis and Anquan Boldin. They've barely even attempted to throw it to anyone else. Seems like they are playing more conservative offensively this season than they were under Alex Smith. Pretty difficult to say he sucks when he's playing in an offense like this. But yeah Kaep sucks.

yes dumb ass , they do that because he is incapable of doing more = therefore he sucks. He is only capable of hot throws, he cant go through progressions consistently enough to be relied on. Thats not QB-ing , that's rookie error management, that's back up QB status, that's being the -and I hate the term but will just throw logs on the fire with-game manager. He isn't going to all the sudden get hot..a light wont go off in his head to make a playoff run..he is what he is this year and that's sub par. He had crabtree and Davis yesterday and only got them 6 balls for 61 yards and one TD to Davis

 

[Hasselbeck]

Well.... Is he completely wrong?

Yes.

Seattle is a 6 win team at best without Russell Wilson.

lol at him pointing to his stat line against the 49er defense though. Odd that you didn't use Wilson's stat line from a week ago.

Also odd you overlook the Seahawks are 2nd in points scored. Obviously though the defense is scoring all those points.

 

[ram29jackson]

Yes.

Seattle is a 6 win team at best without Russell Wilson.

lol at him pointing to his stat line against the 49er defense though. Odd that you didn't use Wilson's stat line from a week ago.

Also odd you overlook the Seahawks are 2nd in points scored. Obviously though the defense is scoring all those points.

I was/am well aware of those stats. I'm not saying Seattle sucks, its obvious they don't. The parity era makes it easier for the not so great to get lots of numbers though-as to how meaningful they are , who knows ?. Honestly, I think Seattle is peaking too early. again, you are just a homer riding a wave your objectivity is no better than St Francisco's last year. And like last year with SF, Seattle will faulter when it counts most.

 

[Hasselbeck]

I was/am well aware of those stats. I'm not saying Seattle sucks, its obvious they don't. The parity era makes it easier for the not so great to get lots of numbers though-as to how meaningful they are , who knows ?. Honestly, I think Seattle is peaking too early. again, you are just a homer riding a wave your objectivity is no better than St Francisco's last year. And like last year with SF, Seattle will faulter when it counts most.

Yes R29J, they're clearly peaking early judging by their... loss.. yesterday.

If the Seahawks lose in the playoffs, it will not be on Russell Wilson. He's the primary reason they are 11-2. Look past stats for a second. Tom Brady didn't have flashy numbers earlier in his career either.

 

[ram29jackson]

Yes R29J, they're clearly peaking early judging by their... loss.. yesterday.

If the Seahawks lose in the playoffs, it will not be on Russell Wilson. He's the primary reason they are 11-2. Look past stats for a second. Tom Brady didn't have flashy numbers earlier in his career either.

I am looking past the stats, that's why I'm saying they wont get it all in the end.

I said they are peaking too early. Just because they lost yesterday doesn't mean that wont be true. Their peak was either the Saints game or one of these games coming before the playoffs.

if Russ is the primary reason they are winning then he will be the primary reason they lose.

 

[Golden Taters]

"I AM LOOKING PAST THE STATS"

*posts stats from yesterday game in first post*

 

[Hasselbeck]

I am looking past the stats, that's why I'm saying they wont get it all in the end.

I said they are peaking too early. Just because they lost yesterday doesn't mean that wont be true. Their peak was either the Saints game or one of these games coming before the playoffs.

if Russ is the primary reason they are winning then he will be the primary reason they lose.

 

[ram29jackson]

"I AM LOOKING PAST THE STATS"

*posts stats from yesterday game in first post*

you simply are too basic in your thought process.. Individually they aren't good QBs which will hurt the teams over all no matter how good the over all stats look.

 

[dave]

People are way over-analyzing this shit. Both are potentially great QBs. 25 teams in the league would kill for either. I agree the read option is probably a fad, but both these guys are more than read option QBs. There are a boat load of teams who would be thrilled with Wilson or Kap.

 

[Aso]

Rams isn't looking past stats at all thats why he just keeps posting stats after stats after stats without anything behind it. Crabtree and VD only had 6 combined catches against the Seahawks defense :runaway:

 

[Hasselbeck]

you simply are too basic in your thought process.. Individually they aren't good QBs which will hurt the teams over all no matter how good the over all stats look.

lol.

Please break down why each of them are not good quarterbacks. Don't use stats against the respective 2nd and 3rd best defenses in football either.