Albert Haynesworth is less fat

[ryne candy]

He just looks less fat because Jamarus is not in the league.

 

[Argath]

I got all my information from various articles at http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/

Now, I'm not saying you are wrong, but I'll take my information from a guy who actually talks to Redskins players (including Haynesworth) over a guy whose key basis that his opinion is king is that "Haynesworth lives 15 minutes down the road".

You obviously didn't read what I posted.



I know Danny Smith, the redskins Special Teams coach

 

[Aso]

Argath you're the one that thought Andre Carter should be playing DE in the Redskins 3-4.

 

[BigBucs]

I got all my information from various articles at http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/

Now, I'm not saying you are wrong, but I'll take my information from a guy who actually talks to Redskins players (including Haynesworth) over a guy whose key basis that his opinion is king is that "Haynesworth lives 15 minutes down the road".

:bowrofl:

 

[Argath]

Argath you're the one that thought Andre Carter should be playing DE in the Redskins 3-4.

I don't remember saying this but I agree with it. He failed at a LB in a 3-4 in San Francisco when he was young, why would he be any good at LB in a 3-4 in Washington being older and slower?

 

[Aso]

I don't remember saying this but I agree with it. He failed at a LB in a 3-4 in San Francisco when he was young, why would he be any good at LB in a 3-4 in Washington being older and slower?

Ok, think, A 250 pound man playing as a 3-4 DE.

 

[Aso]

The plan was for him to play NT...he bitched about it because he wants "stats" and the team told him they were gonna play him at DE when they signed him.
So they told him to find a trade or collect your money and show up to camp ready to play NT.
He couldnt find a trade, collected his money...and apparently has slimmed down so now they are forced to play him at DE.
I thought this shit was widely known. Guess not.

Just because ESPN and NFL Network says it doesn't make it true.

 

[Argath]

when mike shannahan says it, does it make it true?

A lot of what went on didn't get reported to the media. The basis behind everything is that this area doesn't like him and he doesn't like this area. He's not a kind person. I'm not just talking about refusing to take a picture or sign something, that i could care less about (although most skins players do these things), I'm talking about the guy won't leave a tip at a resturaunt on a $100 dollar meal. The guy won't pay his kids child support because it's cutting into his money. The guy tries to haggle with the local grocery over a price, and then demands to get a discount because he plays for the skins. All of these things have happened.

I'm fairly certain he even let it slip that he didn't want to be in the DC area anymore to the media too.

 

[Argath]

Ok, think, A 250 pound man playing as a 3-4 DE.

A lot better than a LB who's slower than most offensive linemen.



Andre Carter doesn't fit into a 3-4 system, he never has and he never will. He doesn't have the speed to play LB nor the size to be in a DE spot. I'd much rather have an undersized DE than an extremely slow linebacker though.

 

[Aso]

when mike shannahan says it, does it make it true?

Maybe, Mike Shanahan doesn't run the defense, Jim Haslett does. Still, that being said I don't recall Shanahan ever saying "Albert Haynesworth will play nose tackle, that has been the plan all along, at no point will he ever play any other position." If you can prove that he or Haslett said something of that nature then I'll admit I was wrong.

 

[Aso]

A lot better than a LB who's slower than most offensive linemen.



Andre Carter doesn't fit into a 3-4 system, he never has and he never will. He doesn't have the speed to play LB nor the size to be in a DE spot. I'd much rather have an undersized DE than an extremely slow linebacker though.

He'd be a liability against the run and without a doubt the Redskins would be near the bottom of the league in run defense. It would be smarter to play someone else than have him start at DE. He would be the smallest 3-4 defensive end in the NFL and maybe in the last 10 seasons.

 

[Argath]

He'd be a liability against the run and without a doubt the Redskins would be near the bottom of the league in run defense. It would be smarter to play someone else than have him start at DE. He would be the smallest 3-4 defensive end in the NFL and maybe in the last 10 seasons.

Redskins have always been in the top of the league in rush defense (Although they were in a 4-3), it's the pass defense that washington has always faltered in. I'd have no problem giving up a little in the run game to gain more in the passing game.

 

[Aso]

Redskins have always been in the top of the league in rush defense (Although they were in a 4-3), it's the pass defense that washington has always faltered in. I'd have no problem giving up a little in the run game to gain more in the passing game.

How would putting Andre Carter at DE gain you any in the passing game? I doubt Chris Wilson or Jeremy Jarmon are that much better in pass coverage if at all and definitely aren't better pass rushers.

For Andre Carter to even be a viable option at DE he'd have to put on at least 20 pounds to be more stout against the run and he'd would lose all ability to rush the passer from the DE position in the 3-4. So at that point you would have a guy that can't rush the passer from the position he's in and you'd have probably the worst run defending starting lineman in the league. Remember the Redskins are in the NFC East, a division where you play the Cowboys, Eagles, and Giants twice. All teams that run a man blocking scheme with big offensive lineman. Imagine what would happen when you have a 250 pound 3-4 DE thats suppose to be 2 gapping and a lineman that outweights him by 75 lbs or more is blocking him.

I don't see what part of that is beneficial. Be near last in run defense so you can be pretty much the same against the pass.

 

[Fox1994]

How would putting Andre Carter at DE gain you any in the passing game? I doubt Chris Wilson or Jeremy Jarmon are that much better in pass coverage if at all and definitely aren't better pass rushers.

For Andre Carter to even be a viable option at DE he'd have to put on at least 20 pounds to be more stout against the run and he'd would lose all ability to rush the passer from the DE position in the 3-4. So at that point you would have a guy that can't rush the passer from the position he's in and you'd have probably the worst run defending starting lineman in the league. Remember the Redskins are in the NFC East, a division where you play the Cowboys, Eagles, and Giants twice. All teams that run a man blocking scheme with big offensive lineman. Imagine what would happen when you have a 250 pound 3-4 DE thats suppose to be 2 gapping and a lineman that outweights him by 75 lbs or more is blocking him.

I don't see what part of that is beneficial. Be near last in run defense so you can be pretty much the same against the pass.

Maybe he figures a lighter defensive end will be able to out-maneuver a tackle for the pass rush... But in a 34 that's the outside linebackers' jobs, not the defensive ends.

 

[Berowsk]

MORE MEAT!

 

[manchild24]

God I cant wait for Training Camp to start and see what drama the boys will be up to this year. Im actually going to head down this year to training camp. Im looking forward to it