Baseball Analysis 101: Top 5 Things that need to go

[Senser81]

I know for a fact Lefty didn't groan-bomb initially. I think he just found out about the button like 2 hours ago.

And no, we haven't always had the best discourse with each other. Many times our arguments have spiraled into this same trap. Ditto for Warner and I.

I'm just saying, coming up on baseball season I really wish we could stop acting like 9-year olds on this site. Whether it's Lefty, you, Warner, FirstTimer, Rush or actual 9-year olds like Yawkey.

You've gotta be kidding me!

Here was Lefty's VERY FIRST COMMENT to W2B's on-topic posting about pitching wins evening out in the long run.

Oh really, where? Show me the distributions, show me where that stuff evens out in the data-set. Inane, idle talk like that also really needs to go from baseball discussion.

So, not only does Lefty34 want to eliminate baseball talk from the baseball discussion (the exact thing you are harping on everyone else about), he also chides W2B for his "inane, idle talk"...which is almost exactly how you described Lefty34's initial article when defending it.

Not only are you totally in the wrong on this, I have no idea why you are besmirching your own reputation by continuing to defend Lefty34's antics. He is the exact opposite of what you are trying to accomplish (baseball discussion).

Whatever.uke:

 

[Rush]

You guys realize this is an internet forum? lol.

Quit arguing and make up you douches.

Also mission accomplished. Home page article = 6 Pages.

 

[Senser81]

You guys realize this is an internet forum? lol.

Quit arguing and make up you douches.

Also mission accomplished. Home page article = 6 Pages.

Yeah, for all the talk of this thread ruining the baseball forum...its easily the most "active thread" in some time.

 

[FedEx227]

Definitely, which is good I suppose, it just feels like we could have healthier discussion that maybe involve more than 4 posters with the occasional drop in from chaz, NAHSTE.

 

[Rush]

It makes sense....you have to talk about SOMETHING in the off-season. You guys should be more happy. I am about to get some Chinese food. I am happier then ever. Go get chinese food.

 

[FedEx227]

I went to Chinatown yesterday and had some pretty sweet beef stir fry at the ole Happy Cafe.

 

[Rush]

I'll be up in Chicago a couple months for some good eats. Looking forward to it.

 

[FedEx227]

No no no. My name isn't Mike Vogt.

I was in Chicago anyway and just happened to be in the area of Chinatown.

 

[NAHSTE]

Yeah, I did say that, but at the time I thought Warner was just arbitrarily saying that those types of wins and losses even out. Many times, people just say "X evens out over time" without any statistical backing (regardless of whether they are right initially), and that's stupid. However, Warner was right, and he proved me wrong (though not about my larger point about Wins and Losses for pitchers being useless), albeit after queening out about being asked to prove it.

Dude, everything evens out over time. You don't need any statistical backing, it's the fucking law of averages.

Ever heard of "Gamblers ruin" ?

 

[FedEx227]

There is definitely a regression towards the mean in many baseball statistics (if a guy has a bad year batting average wise you can reasonably expect him to go back to his average or whatever), but that's not always the case with wins and losses. Sometimes you just have a really shitty team that doesn't score any runs for you. Year-by-year, possibly. Over the course of a career, no.

 

[Senser81]

However, Warner was right, and he proved me wrong, albeit after queening out about being asked to prove it.

I guess the difference is that when Warner queens out he ends up proving his point, whereas you just queen out.

You think I am being flippant. I'm not.

 

[Rush]

senser...asl?

 

[Senser81]

senser...asl?

GROAN!

(30/f/LA)

 

[FedEx227]

^_^

 

[Senser81]

I have removed all the "groans" I made in this thread. In return, STFU.

TY

 

[FedEx227]

I have removed all the "groans" I made in this thread. In return, STFU.

TY

:rush:

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I didn't groan a single post in this entire thread, and in fact, I never groan anybody. Not even the white trash a-holes like steeljake & OnlyOneBeerLeft.

I probably wouldn't even have come back to the thread had Lefty not been so aggressive in challenging my point.

 

[Senser81]

I probably wouldn't even have come back to the thread had Lefty not been so aggressive in challenging my point.

Technically, he didn't really challenge your point...he said "I think you're wrong. Prove to me that my thinking you're wrong is wrong!"

 

[Senser81]

Lefty & FedEx, level with me here.

Lefty logs on to VSN once a week to draw interest in the 643 radio show, and part of that "drawing interest" includes Lefty sparking debate/flame wars in a few sports-related threads...right? Its like a boxer calling out his opponent in order to drum up some fan interest and ticket sales before the fight...right?

Or is this for real?

 

[FedEx227]

I dunno. I'm here all times of the week. I think he was on earlier in the week when the article first got published and first started going crazy.