better rookie Brandon Rush or Courtney Lee

[FirstTimer]

needed was an avg player but a good shooter so thats the point im trying to make

If Lee is an "avg player" and it's even a debate on who is better between him or Rush, much less a debate that Rush is losing, then what the hell do you think that makes Rush? Perhaps "avg" as well?

 

[stevsta]

If Lee is an "avg player" and it's even a debate on who is better between him or Rush, much less a debate that Rush is losing, then what the hell do you think that makes Rush? Perhaps "avg" as well?

avg for now b/c of less playing time but that doesnt mean a players potential doesnt factor into him being better than someone else

in 2/3 years i see lee developing into a kareem and rush blossoming into a viable #2-3 shooter on the pacers he has potential to avg more than 16 a game possibly breaking 20 once or twice in his career

 

[stevsta]

No. You didn't You just said all they need is shooting. That's it. Now you're scrambling for bullshit because your entire viewpoint is based on crap.





Lee was having a great season before Nelson went down. LOL at the Magic needing a deep threat when they already have Turk and Lewis in the starting lineup regardless if Nelson was in or out.

Do you have any clue what you are talking about? Really?

yes you have turk and rashard but the basis of the magic offense at least to me is to jack up a bunch of 3s and having a lineup consisting of 4 3 pt bombers is way better than having 3 or 2 and with the magic

as far as lee he was peaking right around the time nelson got hurt like a month before and even then he never put up haughty numbers

 

[FirstTimer]

avg for now b/c of less playing time but that doesnt mean a players potential doesnt factor into him being better than someone else

It does when you specifically ask who the better rookie is. It would be impossible for Rush to ever be a better rookie than Lee in any season but this current one. Unless of course Rush has a Delorian with a Flux Capacitor.

yes you have turk and rashard but the basis of the magic offense at least to me is to jack up a bunch of 3s

Yep, that's the basis of the Magic's offense. Not perhaps the best big man in the NBA right now patrolling the post. /sarcasm

If the "basis" for the Magic's offense is just jacking up 3's why would they start Lee over the better pure 3pt shooter in JJ Redick?

Hmmm....

as far as lee he was peaking right around the time nelson got hurt like a month before and even then he never put up haughty numbers

So the Magic didn't "need" Lee after Nelson got hurt because they already had Lee producing before Nelson went down. You even admit that.

So what exactly is your point?

 

[A Tasty Burgerr]

I'm not going to vote because I honestly have only seen Rush play a couple times so I'm not quite sure of his capabilities. I assume that nearly everyone that voted is the same way and most are doing it nearly entirely off reputation.

 

[stevsta]

this is the guy who said Derek Fisher could wipe the floor with Rondo and that fisher is NBA "Greatness."

I wouldn't be so quick to criticize peoples NBA opinion.

lol

"greatness" not as in great as a player nowadays but more of his career moment

 

[stevsta]

It does when you specifically ask who the better rookie is. It would be impossible for Rush to ever be a better rookie than Lee in any season but this current one. Unless of course Rush has a Delorian with a Flux Capacitor.




Yep, that's the basis of the Magic's offense. Not perhaps the best big man in the NBA right now patrolling the post. /sarcasm

If the "basis" for the Magic's offense is just jacking up 3's why would they start Lee over the better pure 3pt shooter in JJ Redick?

Hmmm....






So the Magic didn't "need" Lee after Nelson got hurt because they already had Lee producing before Nelson went down. You even admit that.

So what exactly is your point?

if only van gundy would realize this yet late in the 4th what kind of shot do you see them taking the howard post or jacking the 3

 

[FirstTimer]

if only van gundy would realize this yet late in the 4th what kind of shot do you see them taking the howard post or jacking the 3

B./c Dwight is a bad FT shooter...? Just a guess.

Soooooo what does your point of Van Gundy being a marginal coach have to do with Lee>Rush?

 

[stevsta]

B./c Dwight is a bad FT shooter...? Just a guess.

Soooooo what does your point of Van Gundy being a marginal coach have to do with Lee>Rush?

you tried to say that the magics base their game off of Dwight which if they did would be a lot better i just pointed out van gundy tries not to for some unknown reason

im done with this I will let rush prove himself and then brag later

 

[stevsta]

sooo...Milt Palacio represents greatness cause his career defining moment was this?

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ill admit you got me really i just think fisher is a good PG b/c its pure laker homerism rondo is good but i will never admit it in any other thread but this one

 

[FirstTimer]

you tried to say that the magics base their game off of Dwight

How doyou think all those shooters get such open looks?

im done with this I will let rush prove himself and then brag later

How? Lee had a better rookie season. Rush can't go out and prove he is the better rookie because regardless of what happens for the rest of their careers Lee had the better rookie season.

You can't brag about anything later.

 

[stevsta]

How doyou think all those shooters get such open looks?




How? Lee had a better rookie season. Rush can't go out and prove he is the better rookie because regardless of what happens for the rest of their careers Lee had the better rookie season.

You can't brag about anything later.

uh better rookie season what do you base this off of

 

[Whatupdoe44]

uh better rookie season what do you base this off of

:jonesy:

 

[FirstTimer]

uh better rookie season what do you base this off of

"better rookie Brandon Rush or Courtney Lee?"

After this season it will be impossible to judge who the better rookie is because they will no longer be rookies. Lee had the better rookie season so therefore he is the better rookie.

 

[stevsta]

"better rookie Brandon Rush or Courtney Lee?"

After this season it will be impossible to judge who the better rookie is because they will no longer be rookies. Lee had the better rookie season so therefore he is the better rookie.

how do you tell who is the better rookie what do you look at what is the important decision

 

[FirstTimer]

how do you tell who is the better rookie what do you look at what is the important decision

Starts, stats, impact for team, importance to team etc. Lee was the better rookie.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

What does JJ Redick have to with Courtney Lee ?JJ>>>Lee has a pure shooter so if all the Magic need is shooters why is Lee starting and JJ is riding the pine pony?

Because Lee's all-around game absolutely trumps JJ Reddicks.. like its not even close.

That being said id rather have Brandon Rush than Courtney Lee. Rush has more upside IMO. Dude really came on strong the last 2 months of the year. Can score from anywhere on the court, has pretty good handles for a swing-man, and is better defensively than Lee is. Courtney Lee is a nice player, but I dont think he has a ton of upside. Rush could legitimately turn into a 20 point scorer.

 

[FirstTimer]

Because Lee's all-around game absolutely trumps JJ Reddicks.. like its not even close.

I know Bob. That was my point. Thank you for pointing out the obvious...Then again according to Tardsta Lee's all around game wouldn't matter because the Magic "only need" shooters.

That being said id rather have Brandon Rush than Courtney Lee. Rush has more upside IMO. Dude really came on strong the last 2 months of the year. Can score from anywhere on the court, has pretty good handles for a swing-man, and is better defensively than Lee is. Courtney Lee is a nice player, but I dont think he has a ton of upside. Rush could legitimately turn into a 20 point scorer.

Obviously Rush is the better prospect. That's why he was a lottery pick and Lee wasn't. Saying that isn't news. He asked who the better rookie was. Lee had a better season, thus he is the better rookie.

Why is this thread even still open?

 

[stevsta]

Obviously Rush is the better prospect. That's why he was a lottery pick and Lee wasn't. Saying that isn't news. He asked who the better rookie was. Lee had a better season, thus he is the better rookie.

actually thats what people took it to mean as what i meant was who is the better rookie aka player

lol firsttimer trying to argue b/c his argue thread smelled of failure

ask whatupdoe he knows

 

[FirstTimer]

actually thats what people took it to mean as what i meant was who is the better rookie aka player

No, you asked who the better rookie is. If you wanted to know who the better player was you just would have asked that.

Lee was/is the better rookie between the two.

lol firsttimer trying to argue b/c his argue thread smelled of failure

LOL at you get bitch slapped around in this thread from page 1. Changing your argument and not even posting a coherent one.

Nice work Tardsta.