BREAKING.. Vick to the Eagles

[SHOGUN]

Anyone else watching the press conference?

 

[jeffx]

exactly Jeff.

He executes a sick play....Philly fans will be excited.

Funny how they are one of the worse fans in america and they'll boo anyone...so I'm not surprised by this...but those who overreact by crying, not supporting the team...grow a pair and STFU. You can not like the move but for those who take it to the extreme, that's wack.

Dude, those fools booed Dr.J - business as usual for Philly fans.

 

[ralaw]

I'm listening to the press conference. IMO Philly is a good fit for him. I always believed he'd be best served to comeback with a well established organization with a tradition of winning, so this is a good fit.

Philly fans IMO try too hard to live up to the stereotype, so it will be interesting to see how he's treated. However, as mentioned once he makes a great play all will be forgotten. Anyone who says, "they won't support the team" are simply making this story about themselves. So forget them.

 

[SHOGUN]

He really does sound remorseful.

 

[Bear Pand]

Sal Pal was on Mike and Mike and he's reporting that fans were coming out to the concourse, complaining, some crying, some saying their giving up their season tickets...I mean give me a fucking break Philly.

lol at crying, I hope those were female fans.

Ralaws right though:

Anyone who says, "they won't support the team" are simply making this story about themselves.

 

[bucky]

but those who overreact by crying, not supporting the team...grow a pair and STFU. You can not like the move but for those who take it to the extreme, that's wack.

Why is it extreme for a fan to HATE this signing? Isn't it a fans right to be disgusted with their team? Why should fans have to STFU? Isn't it their right to show displeasure to something they strongly disagree with? Isn't it a fans right to not buy tickets?

Aren't you being a little extreme with your STFU?

 

[ralaw]

Why is it extreme for a fan to HATE this signing? Isn't it a fans right to be disgusted with their team? Why should fans have to STFU? Isn't it their right to show displeasure to something they strongly disagree with? Isn't it a fans right to not buy tickets?

Aren't you being a little extreme with your STFU?

I believe the issue is those "fans" who claim they will no longer support the team. Those overreacting "fans" do need to STFU, because everyone knows they'll continue to support the team and when Vick makes a play they'll be chearing him on. They should just get over themselves, because they aren't that important.

 

[bucky]

I believe the issue is those "fans" who claim they will no longer support the team. Those overreacting "fans" do need to STFU, because everyone knows they'll continue to support the team and when Vick makes a play they'll be chearing him on.

I disagree. If GB would have signed him, I would not be "Cheering" him even if he made a play. I wouldn't go to Lambeau for a game while he was with the team.

But....

I wouldn't be out protesting or going on camera either. I would watch GB on TV, but never cheer for MV, no-matter what play he may make. That's my right as a fan.

What he did was intentionally sick, and evil. It goes to the very core of ones character. I have the right to not cheer for him.

I also, always thought that, whatever Goodell decided about MV was OK with me. He is the commissioner, and MV served his time. I would have liked to see a Stallworth type 1 year suspension, but I'm fine w/ what Goodell has decided and will decide before week 6.

But it is my right, as a fan, to not cheer for someone, whether they are or are not on my team.

 

[ralaw]

I disagree. If GB would have signed him, I would not be "Cheering" him even if he made a play. I wouldn't go to Lambeau for a game while he was with the team.

But....

I wouldn't be out protesting or going on camera either. I would watch GB on TV, but never cheer for MV, no-matter what play he may make. That's my right as a fan.

What he did was intentionally sick, and evil. It goes to the very core of ones character. I have the right to not cheer for him.

I also, always thought that, whatever Goodell decided about MV was OK with me. He is the commissioner, and MV served his time. I would have liked to see a Stallworth type 1 year suspension, but I'm fine w/ what Goodell has decided and will decide before week 6.

But it is my right, as a fan, to not cheer for someone, whether they are or are not on my team.

You are right.... it is your right as a fan to do whatever you would like. If you are the type that was so offended by what Vick did and feel the need to not attend games as a form of protest than fine. However, I would only ask that you be consistent with that. Hypothetically, if and when Vick were to make a play remember your morals, when your team is successful remember your morals.

Also understand while you are on your moral "high horse" the contradiction. You essentially would be boycotting your favorite team due to a decision that they made that goes against your morals . However, even after Vick is gone the decision that goes against your morals was still made. So, how could you support the organization any longer?

 

[bucky]

You are right.... it is your right as a fan to do whatever you would like. If you are the type that was so offended by what Vick did and feel the need to not attend games as a form of protest than fine.

It has nothing to do with protesting. I said in my previous post that I would NOT be protesting. I would not attend games because I don't want to go in person, and see MV play for my team. It's not a protest, just a strong desire to not see it in person.

However, I would only ask that you be consistent with that. Hypothetically, if and when Vick were to make a play remember your morals, when your team is successful remember your morals.

What do my morals have to do with my team being successful or me wanting my team to be successful?

Also understand while you are on your moral "high horse" the contradiction.

What "moral high horse" are you referring to? Have we lowered our morals so drastically that it's OK to torture living beings? Is rape, murder OK too? Is being against these as well considered "moral high horse"? I just don't understand how you are making the "moral high horse" leap.

You essentially would be boycotting your favorite team due to a decision that they made that goes against your morals. However, even after Vick is gone the decision that goes against your morals was still made. So, how could you support the organization any longer?

I have no beef w/ the Eagles signing him. If it would have been GB, I would have been greatly disappointed, but my beef is not with the team. I'm not, or would not be, against the team. They had every right to sign him, just like the Eagles did. I just don't want to, and will not cheer for, MV.

Again, why would I not be able to cheer for a team just because I don't cheer for a player? And where does "moral high horse" fit into this?

I never said he doesn't deserve a second chance. I never criticized Goodells decision to conditionally reinstate him. I never criticized the Eagles for signing him. I just said that the fans have a right to voice there displeasure and both they and I have a right to not cheer for him.

 

[ralaw]

It has nothing to do with protesting. I said in my previous post that I would NOT be protesting. I would not attend games because I don't want to go in person, and see MV play for my team. It's not a protest, just a strong desire to not see it in person.

If you normally attend games and stop because your team signed Vick that is a form of protest (ie withholding your money).

What do my morals have to do with my team being successful or me wanting my team to be successful?

It applies, because if you are so morally just to refuse to attend games and support the team because of Vick then do not support the team when they are being successful with Vick.

What "moral high horse" are you referring to? Have we lowered our morals so drastically that it's OK to torture living beings? Is rape, murder OK too? Is being against these as well considered "moral high horse"? I just don't understand how you are making the "moral high horse" leap

.

Context my friend, context...take the comment within the context of the sentence. You mentioned, "core of ones character," which implies morality. If your morals prevent you from supporting a decision your team made and thus you choose not to attend games (protest) that remember that when the player is gone, because your morals should not change.

I have no beef w/ the Eagles signing him. If it would have been GB, I would have been greatly disappointed, but my beef is not with the team. I'm not, or would not be, against the team. They had every right to sign him, just like the Eagles did. I just don't want to, and will not cheer for, MV.

That contradicts your comment of, "I wouldn't go to Lambeau for a game while he was with the team." If you choose not to attend games then your, "beef is with the team." So, which is it?

Again, why would I not be able to cheer for a team just because I don't cheer for a player? And where does "moral high horse" fit into this?

Answered above.

I never said he doesn't deserve a second chance. I never criticized Goodells decision to conditionally reinstate him. I never criticized the Eagles for signing him. I just said that the fans have a right to voice there displeasure and both they and I have a right to not cheer for him.

Again, I don't have a problem with a fan choosing voice their opinion or having the right to not cheer for him. No one ever said a fan couldn't voice their opinion or had to cheer for him. However, the point is don't be over emotional and say things that you won't follow through on. Don't say, "I will no longer support the team" and than when the team is successful you're buying tickets and cheering for the team (and Vick).

 

[RosettaStoned]

See thats Brett Favre.... not a career average QB. Favre shits on Vick. Vick cant hold Favre's jock strap.

Lol @ you for even trying to compare Favre and Vick.

None the less its mind boggling how almost all of you suck Vicks average, overrated dick.

I've always known you were dumb, but damn...

 

[ralaw]

I'm beginning to believe people are dumb. I'm listening to some local Philly radio station and they're trying to question the Eagles decision to bring in Vick. I don't have a problem with that; however, their reasoning for this is about as dumb as I've ever heard. They actually believe that Reid brought in Vick, because of what happened with his sons. The host are actually saying, "Reid needs to understand that he's a football coach and has to run a team....not a halfway house" They think Reid made this move, simply because he wanted to help Vick......people can't be this stupid can they? I'm hoping they're doing it for the ratings.

 

[jeffx]

......people can't be this stupid can they?

Yes. You should hear some of the nonsense on WFAN.

 

[RosettaStoned]

I'm beginning to believe people are dumb. I'm listening to some local Philly radio station and they're trying to question the Eagles decision to bring in Vick. I don't have a problem with that; however, their reasoning for this is about as dumb as I've ever heard. They actually believe that Reid brought in Vick, because of what happened with his sons. The host are actually saying, "Reid needs to understand that he's a football coach and has to run a team....not a halfway house" They think Reid made this move, simply because he wanted to help Vick......people can't be this stupid can they? I'm hoping they're doing it for the ratings.

Philly fans are some of the most retarded douchebags there are. Haven't you ever seen yrok or pirgo post?

 

[Point Blank]

See thats Brett Favre.... not a career average QB. Favre shits on Vick. Vick cant hold Favre's jock strap.

Lol @ you for even trying to compare Favre and Vick.

None the less its mind boggling how almost all of you suck Vicks average, overrated dick.

Are you 12 years old man? :smh: @ that post.

 

[bucky]

If you normally attend games and stop because your team signed Vick that is a form of protest (ie withholding your money).

Wrong. It's not a form of protest. It's not a protest. It's not a protest against the team or even against MV. I have no beef with the team or any team that signs him. I just don't want to see MV, in person, wearing my teams uniform. It's that simple. I'm not mad at the team for signing him. I just don't want to go their and see it. It has NOTHING to do with protesting. I'm not intentionally trying to withhold my money from supporting the team. I'm no trying to teach them a lesson. I have no problem with others buying tickets. I just don't want to go to the stadium and see MV on the sidelines or in the game playing for my team. It's that simple.

It applies, because if you are so morally just to refuse to attend games and support the team because of Vick then do not support the team when they are being successful with Vick.

I do support the team. I can support the team and still not go to the stadium. I still want them to win. I'll cheer for the team. I just won't cheer for MV. Absolutely no protesting or anger toward the team at all. I just don't want to go to the stadium and see MV on my team.

Context my friend, context...take the comment within the context of the sentence. You mentioned, "core of ones character," which implies morality. If your morals prevent you from supporting a decision your team made and thus you choose not to attend games (protest) that remember that when the player is gone, because your morals should not change.

Well, torturing and especially taking pleasure in it is a moral issue. I just don't get where you're describing it as "moral high horse". I'm against it. High horse has nothing to do with it. Again, I'm not protesting the team or decision they have made, I just don't want to see him wearing my teams jersey. It would be difficult enough to watch it on TV. I definitely don't want to see it in person. It's as simple as that.

That contradicts your comment of, "I wouldn't go to Lambeau for a game while he was with the team." If you choose not to attend games then your, "beef is with the team." So, which is it?

I have not contradicted anything. My beef is not with the team. I don't want to see MV on my team. It all has to do with MV, not my team. Bad enough seeing it on TV, I definitely don't want to see it in person. I'm fine with the team/organization.

Again, I don't have a problem with a fan choosing voice their opinion or having the right to not cheer for him. No one ever said a fan couldn't voice their opinion or had to cheer for him. However, the point is don't be over emotional and say things that you won't follow through on. Don't say, "I will no longer support the team" and than when the team is successful you're buying tickets and cheering for the team (and Vick).

You seem to have a problem with me not wanting to see MV on my team. It's not over emotional. I'm not being emotional about it. I don't hate the guy, but I STRONGLY dislike him. I don't want to see him on my team. I especially don't want to see it in person. And I never said I don't support my team (w/ or w/o MV). I do support the team. I'm not withholding money from the team in any kind/form of protest. I'm not trying to teach the team a lesson. I just don't want to see MV on my team, especially in person/going to the game. I don't want to see it. I have no desire to buy tickets and go to any games and see him on the team, no matter how successful or unsuccessful the team is.

And this has nothing to do with after MV is gone from the team. I don't know where you are going with saying I should be against the team after MV leaves. Doesn't make any sense to me that I should have a problem with the team after MV leaves, when I don't have a problem with them now.

Again, I'm saying that fans have a right to not want MV on their team and have a right to voice that opinion. They have a right to not go to games because they don't want to see MV. Nothing wrong w/ that.

 

[mgoblue2290]

I don't understand why some of ya'll are getting so excited about this.

He isn't even eligible to play until week 6, if then.

In philly's system, and the fact he's been away from the game for 2 years, he's likely not going to beat out AJ Feeley forf the backup job, let alone challenge D McNabb.

Any playing time he would get, if any, would be strictly situational, or maybe late game blowouts.

I say he seems minimal playing time at the most in any meaningful games.

Exactly. Vick won't be seeing the field very much this season. I'm sure he'll get in the game on a couple of trick plays, but other than that he'll just be sitting on the sidelines.

Philly is a good fit for Vick, they are a team with a lot of veterans and they aren't in a transition. I think Vick realizes he wouldn't have played on any team this season and he's just going to use this year or two to practice with a good team and try to himself near what he once was.

 

[Fox1994]

Vick's eligible to play week 1, if the commissioner so chooses. Otherwise, he'll wait until week 6 to decide. It's all up to the commish, only that week 6 is much more likely.

 

[young2rice]

D.McNabb goes down when a d-lineman dives into his knee, Feeley finishes the game, Vick is allowed by commish to play, Vick leads the Eagles to a good record, Westbrook goes down before the playoffs and the Eagles sign Jerome Bettis. Bettis pounds his way in the playoffs to paydirt, in the NFC Championship game Bettis almost looses the game for the Eagles on a late-game fumble, but luckily Vick chases the guy down, tackles him, and gets hurt......the Eagle sign Brett Favre to play for them in the Super Bowl... Eagles loose on a late 4th quarter interception. /season