Broncos fired head coach Josh McDaniels.

[SuperKevin]

So does he get another shot as an NFL offensive coordinator or do you see him going the college route? Personally I think he'd make a better college coach. It's too hard for him to command respect from professional athletes when he's in his young 30s in my opinion.

If he stays in the pros, what are the odds he ends up in KC with the rest of the New England coaching staff?

 

[1ke]

Even the Tight End coulda been decent for them....he fucked up, big time.

Another one from the Beli-cheat tree that bites the dust. To be fair to him though, he was just a kid with a crew cut hair cut, never shoulda been there to begin with.

 

[Hasselbeck]

So does he get another shot as an NFL offensive coordinator or do you see him going the college route? Personally I think he'd make a better college coach. It's too hard for him to command respect from professional athletes when he's in his young 30s in my opinion.

If he wants to be a Head Coach he'd probably have to go to college.. He'll probably be a hot commodity for an OC job though.

 

[Diivox]

By the way I can definitely see this job grabbing Jon Gruden's interest. He'd be back in the AFC West, and would have Tim Tebow at his disposal (he's a HUGE Tebow fan).

Gruden is a huge fan of every single player in the NFL, particularly ones on teams with potential head coaching vacancies

 

[Goober]

By the way I can definitely see this job grabbing Jon Gruden's interest. He'd be back in the AFC West, and would have Tim Tebow at his disposal (he's a HUGE Tebow fan).

Yup, this is the first name that came up in my head. Hopefully we salvage what we have to work with and hire someone who wants to continue to develop Tim Tebow.

 

[Tailback U]

LOL so awesome.

Guy reminds me so much of Lane Kiffin that is creepy.

 

[1ke]

Does the owner care about money? I ask because Shanny, McDaniels, and the new coach will be on the books next year...

 

[Hasselbeck]

Gruden is a huge fan of every single player in the NFL, particularly ones on teams with potential head coaching vacancies

He's loved Tebow for a long time.. I think his Tebow love goes back to before ESPN even hired him actually.

 

[Goober]

Does the owner care about money? I ask because Shanny, McDaniels, and the new coach will be on the books next year...

I believe Bowlen is one of the richer owners in the league, note all of the ridiculous contracts Shanahan gave to free agents.

 

[Maynard]

other than seeing what we see from national media, idk much about the broncos. But i think firing josh was a huge mistake. he made a mistake with the hillis trade, but he obviously didnt feel hillis was the answer and thought his RB was gonna be good this year. NOBODY could have guessed that the #3 guy at Arkansas would be what he turned out to be for cleveland....so imo, he gets a pass on that.

the other moves he made and what he is trying to do is all about building the belechick style of TEAM. just like Mangini is doing in cleveland. The difference being that what mangini is doing is showing very good results (despite the record)

it takes time to get rid of the trash and add the guys u need. 1.5 years is not gonna make a difference and is the broncos owner didnt want to wait for it to happen, then its his own fault he hired mcdanials.

there is talk of mangini being fired this year for dumping all the talent and not winning....but the fact is that he is getting bad players to play as part of the team concept. its the same concept that made belechick a legend....and the same concept that took him a few years to make.

Remember, he got lucky with brady when bledsoe went down. Prior to that he went into that year on the hot seat himself. imagine the pats if they had denvers patient level

 

[SuperKevin]

Was McDaniels also the GM?

 

[Goober]

other than seeing what we see from national media, idk much about the broncos. But i think firing josh was a huge mistake. he made a mistake with the hillis trade, but he obviously didnt feel hillis was the answer and thought his RB was gonna be good this year. NOBODY could have guessed that the #3 guy at Arkansas would be what he turned out to be for cleveland....so imo, he gets a pass on that.

the other moves he made and what he is trying to do is all about building the belechick style of TEAM. just like Mangini is doing in cleveland. The difference being that what mangini is doing is showing very good results (despite the record)

it takes time to get rid of the trash and add the guys u need. 1.5 years is not gonna make a difference and is the broncos owner didnt want to wait for it to happen, then its his own fault he hired mcdanials.

there is talk of mangini being fired this year for dumping all the talent and not winning....but the fact is that he is getting bad players to play as part of the team concept. its the same concept that made belechick a legend....and the same concept that took him a few years to make.

Remember, he got lucky with brady when bledsoe went down. Prior to that he went into that year on the hot seat himself. imagine the pats if they had denvers patient level

Go watch game tape of Hillis in college or with the Broncos in 2008, or the one game McDaniels played him in '09; or read the posts Glen and I made about Hillis. I was on that band wagon when he was still at Arkansas. Everyone knew Hillis was the real deal in Denver except McDaniels.

And lets not pretend this was the only bad trade he made. I'm fine with the Cutler/Marshall trades, but the two Alphonso Smith trades, trading up in the draft to get Richard Quinn, etc. were all fucking terrible.

 

[Goober]

Eric Studesville is interim headcoach.

???

 

[for surtain 22]

It wasn't going to work with the impatience surrounding the situation anyways so I guess it's not a bad move.

I still think McDaniels is going to be a good coach in the NFL when he gets a good opportunity.
Do you actually think Brandon Marshall is a good dude to have on your football team? Guy doesn't give a shit, and I'm sure none of his teammates respect him. That's the last thing you want on a football team. And this is coming from a Dolphins fan.

And I don't even need to make an argument about Cutler... except to Bears fans.

Still think he'll be a good HC someday

 

[Hasselbeck]

other than seeing what we see from national media, idk much about the broncos. But i think firing josh was a huge mistake. he made a mistake with the hillis trade, but he obviously didnt feel hillis was the answer and thought his RB was gonna be good this year. NOBODY could have guessed that the #3 guy at Arkansas would be what he turned out to be for cleveland....so imo, he gets a pass on that.

the other moves he made and what he is trying to do is all about building the belechick style of TEAM. just like Mangini is doing in cleveland. The difference being that what mangini is doing is showing very good results (despite the record)

it takes time to get rid of the trash and add the guys u need. 1.5 years is not gonna make a difference and is the broncos owner didnt want to wait for it to happen, then its his own fault he hired mcdanials.

there is talk of mangini being fired this year for dumping all the talent and not winning....but the fact is that he is getting bad players to play as part of the team concept. its the same concept that made belechick a legend....and the same concept that took him a few years to make.

Remember, he got lucky with brady when bledsoe went down. Prior to that he went into that year on the hot seat himself. imagine the pats if they had denvers patient level

I think the Browns are playing well more in spite of Mangini than because of him.

Holmgren has no ties to Eric Mangini, and if he can bring in a Jon Gruden type coach - you pull the trigger on that.

 

[Goober]

It wasn't going to work with the impatience surrounding the situation anyways so I guess it's not a bad move.

I still think McDaniels is going to be a good coach in the NFL when he gets a good opportunity.
Do you actually think Brandon Marshall is a good dude to have on your football team? Guy doesn't give a shit, and I'm sure none of his teammates respect him. That's the last thing you want on a football team. And this is coming from a Dolphins fan.

And I don't even need to make an argument about Cutler... except to Bears fans.

Still think he'll be a good HC someday

I'm all for a team first atmosphere, but you can't excuse the shit the Broncos were calling football this season. Not many coaches survive 5-17 stretches.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Eric Studesville is interim headcoach.

???

He'll be the interim/Rooney Rule token interview guy.

 

[for surtain 22]

Very true, I just think the circumstances were awful for whoever got the job. McDaniels tried to what he thought needed to be done but it just wasn't going to happen quickly.

By the way, I'll agree that there were a few people that were likely high on Hillis, and give you credit for backing him (even if sarcastically) for a long time... but if people around the NFL were THAT big on him and the Broncos were shopping him, they could have gotten a hell of a lot more than Brady Quinn.

 

[citizenerased]

lol.

Seriously, just lol.

And to think you people laughed at me when I said Cutler would win more games this year then McDaniels would coach.

 

[Aso]

I don't give him a pass on Peyton Hillis. I don't think he ever gave Hillis a chance. When Hillis played in '08 he looked very good.

There is no excuse for all the dumb stuff he has done though. Trading away Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall, and Peyton Hillis. Trading up and drafting Alphonso Smith (who gets traded away a year later), drafting Tim Tebow and Demaryius Thomas both in the first round. Then the decision to get rid of Mike Nolan.

I think he's a great offensive coordinator but horrible head coach.