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You're not helping your case at all. Let's look at these numbers.
According to you it was 38-7 USC at one time in the Rose Bowl.
Ohio State lost 35-3 to USC.
Now I'm not going to major in math next year but I'm pretty sure that 38-7=31 and 35-3=32. So don't bring up scores cause that doesn't help your argument at all.

lol are you kidding me? Are you really making that big of a deal over one point?

Both teams got their asses raped by USC, just face facts.
 
lol are you kidding me? Are you really making that big of a deal over one point?

Both teams got their asses raped by USC, just face facts.

I understand that both teams got beat handily by USC, but you're saying one point doesn't matter?
21-20 PSU; I'm pretty sure one point matters. ;)
 
I understand that both teams got beat handily by USC, but you're saying one point doesn't matter?
21-20 PSU; I'm pretty sure one point matters. ;)

I'm pretty sure one point doesn't matter when your comparing how bad two teams got assraped by a common opponent.
 
I guess we'll just see what happens in Happy Valley this year. ;)

(waits for TS to say the Buckeyes will win in a blowout)
 
I guess we'll just see what happens in Happy Valley this year. ;)

(waits for TS to say the Buckeyes will win in a blowout)

IMO Penn State lost too much and doesn't have enough depth behind it... Ohio State at least has more depth to count on with all we lost.

It says a lot about the Big Ten when two teams that lost a ton from the year before are the top 2 in the conference.
 
IMO Penn State lost too much and doesn't have enough depth behind it... Ohio State at least has more depth to count on with all we lost.

It says a lot about the Big Ten when two teams that lost a ton from the year before are the top 2 in the conference.

I think Penn State will be just fine this year.

QB- Daryl Clark is the class of the Big Ten. He was great all year until he suffered that concussion against the Buckeyes. Kevin Newsome was a five-star prospect this year and is the future of the Nits.

RB- One of our biggest strengths. Evan Royster is the best runningback (most accomplished) coming back in the Big Ten and should have another great season. Stephon Green is lighting quick and will spell Royster at times. Brandon Beachum looked decent in limited time last year.

WR/TE- Problem spot, but not as much as people think. Last year's group with D-Will, Norwood, and Butler were small. This year's group is huge. Brett Brackett (6'6") is a former quarterback who looked good in some games last year. I expect a big year from him. Derek Moye (6'5") and Graham Zug (6'2") will be the other main targets at wideout. At tight end, Andrew Quarless (6'5") is a great talent, but is usually in Paterno's doghouse for causing trouble. Jon Ditto (6'3") can line up at either TE or WR. Mickey Shuler (6'4") was the starting tight end last year.

OL- It'll say that the O-line lost five starters last year, but really, we only lost three. One of the kids filling an open spot has been ready to play for 2 years now but was benched because they played the underclassmen. Plus the O-line has go against one, if not the best, defensive line in the Big Ten all the time in practice. They'll be ready.

DL- Another question mark, but not a big one. Sure we lost Aaron Maybin and Maurice Evans, but Jack Crawford is turning heads in spring practice. He's got a similar body as Maybin and I expect about the same production. Defensive tackle is stacked. Jared Odrick, Ollie Obgu, and Abe Koroma all started or played tons last year. Devon Still, I think, broke his leg last year, but has a lot of talent.

LB- We're called Linebacker U for a reason. Navarro Bowman is an animal on the outside, and Sean Lee is back from his ACL injury. Jerome Hayes is back from his ACL tear as well, and then there's four 4-star prospects that are either redshirt freshmen or sophomores that are looking for playing time.

DB- The biggest concern I see with this team. The whole starting secondary is gone, and the only experienced one coming back is AJ Wallace. Wallace is very quick but suspect in coverage, and I think sophomore D'Anton Lynn will man the other corner spot. Lynn's a four-star (I believe) from Texas who came to Happy Valley. Safeties are really talented but no experience. Drew Astorino played a little bit last year and is more athletic than last year's starter Anthony Scirrotto. Gerald Hodges is a freshman coming in who coaches are really high on. He has the body of one of the linebackers (6'3", 210) and hits like one too. Knowledge Timmons, a senior, is the only other player I could see making a difference at safety.

Special Teams- Kevin Kelly graduated, but we have Texas kicker Anthony Fera coming in. Jeremy Boone returns at punter and then Wallace and Green man the return spots.

Penn State has players coming back, and it's in Happy Valley, so it's definitely going to be close. Probably will be primetime, so you know the White-Out's coming. I'm going to try to get tickets. You guys got me excited for this game already.
 
I disagree... PSU has to replace their two best players at DE, and their entire secondary. A good linebacking core can help but you don't get better nor do you stay the same losing Maybin and Evans.

If your expecting the same kind of production from your WR core that you had before your kidding yourself. Offensive line play is the reason PSU was so good when they were "on" last year, it'll be interesting to see if they can continue that.

Penn St. will not win 10 games IMO, they lost too much in the trenches. Maybin and Evans were two great pass rushers and I don't think they can be replaced that easily.

The PSU game is not a night game, Big 10 passed a ruling declaring no night games in November.
 
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wow... makes me miss entourage...
 
I disagree... PSU has to replace their two best players at DE, and their entire secondary. A good linebacking core can help but you don't get better nor do you stay the same losing Maybin and Evans.

If your expecting the same kind of production from your WR core that you had before your kidding yourself. Offensive line play is the reason PSU was so good when they were "on" last year, it'll be interesting to see if they can continue that.

Penn St. will not win 10 games IMO, they lost too much in the trenches. Maybin and Evans were two great pass rushers and I don't think they can be replaced that easily.

The PSU game is not a night game, Big 10 passed a ruling declaring no night games in November.

Of course you disagree, you're a OSU fan. ;) Haha, I'm messing.

But quick question...where did Aaron Maybin come from last year? You hear of him before last year? Jack Crawford, I believe, will do the exact same thing. His game reminds me so much of Maybin's. The other end spot is unsettled, but the defensive tackles are great. The secondary, I said, is my biggest concern of the Nits next year. They are athletic but have very little game experience, well meaningful game experience. I don't expect the receiving core to be like last year's, but they will be good. They're a very talented bunch, and will surprise people this year. Definitely not the top core in the Big 10, but they'll be up there.

Penn State has too easy of a OOC schedule this year, so I definitely expect a 10-win season. In fact, 10 wins sounds about right.

As for the OSU-PSU game not being a night game, that kinda blows. The atmosphere is still going to be awesome for that game; Gameday will probably be there as well; but they need to make an exception for that game, and play it at night. Watching a PSU game on a Saturday night with 100,000+ wearing white is quite a sight.

EDIT: TS, is that Gholston kid Vernon's brother?
 
Of course you disagree, you're a OSU fan. ;) Haha, I'm messing.

But quick question...where did Aaron Maybin come from last year? You hear of him before last year? Jack Crawford, I believe, will do the exact same thing. His game reminds me so much of Maybin's. The other end spot is unsettled, but the defensive tackles are great. The secondary, I said, is my biggest concern of the Nits next year. They are athletic but have very little game experience, well meaningful game experience. I don't expect the receiving core to be like last year's, but they will be good. They're a very talented bunch, and will surprise people this year. Definitely not the top core in the Big 10, but they'll be up there.

Penn State has too easy of a OOC schedule this year, so I definitely expect a 10-win season. In fact, 10 wins sounds about right.

As for the OSU-PSU game not being a night game, that kinda blows. The atmosphere is still going to be awesome for that game; Gameday will probably be there as well; but they need to make an exception for that game, and play it at night. Watching a PSU game on a Saturday night with 100,000+ wearing white is quite a sight.

EDIT: TS, is that Gholston kid Vernon's brother?

You do realize Maybin was a freshman All Big-Ten in 2007, right?

A good secondary can help out an inexperienced pass rush, and vise versa. Replacing both is a difficult task for anybody.

Count me as one that will be surprised to see their receivers do much.
 
You do realize Maybin was a freshman All Big-Ten in 2007, right?

A good secondary can help out an inexperienced pass rush, and vise versa. Replacing both is a difficult task for anybody.

Count me as one that will be surprised to see their receivers do much.

He wasn't projected to start last season. He was slated behind Josh Gaines and Maurice Evans, and he broke into the starting lineup when Evans got into trouble.

As for their receivers, they looked amazing in the spring game according to some friends of mine that went. With their height there, add converted DB Chaz Powell to the receiver mix. He'll add speed to the core.
 
He wasn't projected to start last season. He was slated behind Josh Gaines and Maurice Evans, and he broke into the starting lineup when Evans got into trouble.
And? He was regarded as a pass rushing terror off the bench, all that did was show PSU's depth at DE..

As for their receivers, they looked amazing in the spring game according to some friends of mine that went. With their height there, add converted DB Chaz Powell to the receiver mix. He'll add speed to the core.

Penn State replaced their entire secondary, you sure that didn't have anything to do with it? Or the fact that they were playing largely against the 2nd teamers? Even JoePa said the secondary wasn't up to par.
 
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