Calling out you bums who barely post anymore

[Liquidrob]

I would also like to add that part of my ninja posting approach is because I can't access VSN from work. Other forums I can.

Weak excuse, I see you around a lot and you're always in that damn pro wrestling thread

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Weak excuse, I see you around a lot and you're always in that damn pro wrestling thread

And? You got a problem with that?

 

[Liquidrob]

And? You got a problem with that?

yes, if it is taking away from BigPapa posting in MMA related threads which it clearly is

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

yes, if it is taking away from BigPapa posting in MMA related threads which it clearly is

Most of the guys here make both prowres & MMA posts (shogun, larry, myself, bpapa, empire, etc etc).

Stop being an elitist. Help end prowres bias in the MMA community. Together, we can make a difference.

 

[Liquidrob]

lol, nothing against the guys who like both, BigPapa was one of the OG MMA posters at MM, you, Empire, Shogun post a lot about both topics, BigPapa has pretty much given up posting about MMA for a while now, I sent him messages multiple times over at MM and VSN, just seems like he lost the fire

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

If anything is suffering around here, it's boxing talk.

Super 6 heated things up, now it's ghost town again.

Boxing elitists are worse than MMA elitists. The reality, is alot of MMA fans like boxing, and are closet prowres fans but would die before they would admit it. Boxing fans look down on both.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

lol, nothing against the guys who like both, BigPapa was one of the OG MMA posters at MM, you, Empire, Shogun post a lot about both topics, BigPapa has pretty much given up posting about MMA for a while now, I sent him messages multiple times over at MM and VSN, just seems like he lost the fire

Look at me when you I tell you this, so, you don't say I didn't say it to your face...

Fuck you, Rob.

That is for not including me in your post.

Edit it, and we'll call a truce.

 

[Liquidrob]

Look at me when you I tell you this, so, you don't say I didn't say it to your face...

Fuck you, Rob.

That is for not including me in your post.

Edit it, and we'll call a truce.

I almost edited the post and added you, but you have posted the last couple of days so I felt like you have tried to step up

after this outburst I will not be editing the post

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I almost edited the post and added you, but you have posted the last couple of days so I felt like you have tried to step up

after this outburst I will not be editing the post

:seeyou:

:smug:

Bum.

 

[Steel Mamba]

If anything is suffering around here, it's boxing talk.

Super 6 heated things up, now it's ghost town again.

Boxing elitists are worse than MMA elitists. The reality, is alot of MMA fans like boxing, and are closet prowres fans but would die before they would admit it. Boxing fans look down on both.

You had me until you brought up Wrestling. I don't think you have many MMA fans who have/will crossover into wrestling. From an MMA fan perspective they're polar opposites, for everything MMA is Wrestling isn't. We do see a decent crossover from wrestling to MMA though and we also see a lot (not all) wrestling fans who mainly covet the drama aspect of MMA. When there's no drama a lot (not all) wrestling fans go MIA.

I think a lot of boxing fans turned to MMA when the boxing scene died down. If you're into MMA how could you not be into boxing? But, I could understand boxing fans who never got into MMA and don't like it. MMA even though it's a new sport and doesn't have near the level of athletes that boxing does it's just a lot more exciting to follow. Boxing has just not evolved with the times. That's why there just isn't a lot of boxing talk going on anywhere.

 

[calgaryballer]

To be honest, I just haven't had much to discuss of late. I'm not someone to just come in and spout off an opinion for the sake of being heard, and often by the time I get to a thread (like BP can't access at work), everything I came to say has been said. This isn't the locker room, we don't need 20 guys saying 'ditto'.

Trust me, when there is something I feel needs to brought up (like Strikeforce's lack of talent acquisition that me and Rob disagree about), I'll be in here causing a ruckus like Alistair Overeem assaulting a woman

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

You had me until you brought up Wrestling. I don't think you have many MMA fans who have/will crossover into wrestling. I think a lot of boxing fans turned to MMA when the boxing scene died down. If you're into MMA how could you not be into boxing? But, I could understand boxing fans who never got into MMA and don't like it. MMA even though it's a new sport and doesn't have near the level of athletes that boxing does it's just a lot more exciting to follow. Boxing has just not evolved with the times. That's why there just isn't a lot of boxing talk going on anywhere.

-Disgruntled pro wresting fans have turned to MMA in droves, thanks mostly to TUF Season 1 being aired after WWE RAW, and then the Brock phenomenon. Also, MMA gives them what wrestling used to give them and now fails to deliver.

-A staggering number of people who describe themselves as MMA fans were pro wrestling fans at some point (hi rob!), although many have given up on it (see above). Many studies have backed this up, and no matter what he says in public, Dana White knows it better than anyone. Just look at the way he promotes his product. Also, as UFC buyrates have risen, wrestling buyrates have fallen at almost identical percentages. Draw your own conclusions.

-Don't even get me started on Japan, where prowres/MMA are interchangable, promoted by the same people, and covered as if they are the same entity. Different culture, but they simply aren't snobbish about prowres and recoginize the obvious similarities. (To be fair, wrestling has always been viewed as more of a respected art form in Japan, as opposed to being considered low brow "trash" entertainment in North America)

-MMA fans generally like boxing.

-Boxing fans generally dislike MMA. Alot has to do with the media contrived "war" that doesn't really exist. Mostly it has to do with old boxing writers and TV media feeling threatened by MMA and ripping it to shreds in columns/rants/diatribes. This trickles down to fans, who view MMA as less technical, and buy into the "barfight" stereotype.

-Boxing/prowres have very little crossover, with the exception of latinos (particularly mexicans). Ironically, it's the latino population that has largely kept boxing relevent, it's white/blacks/younger demos where the interest has slipped over the last 10-15 years or so.

I agree that MMA fans rarely cross over to wretling. It's the other way around. Your typical MMA fan has moved on.

 

[SHOGUN]

To be honest, I just haven't had much to discuss of late. I'm not someone to just come in and spout off an opinion for the sake of being heard, and often by the time I get to a thread (like BP can't access at work), everything I came to say has been said. This isn't the locker room, we don't need 20 guys saying 'ditto'.

Trust me, when there is something I feel needs to brought up (like Strikeforce's lack of talent acquisition that me and Rob disagree about), I'll be in here causing a ruckus like Alistair Overeem assaulting a woman

"See, sometimes you gotta take the pussy like Overeem."

 

[Steel Mamba]

-Disgruntled pro wresting fans have turned to MMA in droves, thanks mostly to TUF Season 1 being aired after WWE RAW, and then the Brock phenomenon. Also, MMA gives them what wrestling used to give them and now fails to deliver.

Which could be the easiest answer as to why wrestling PPVs have dropped while MMA's have risen. There's a difference though between Wrestling fans coming to MMA, and MMA fans transitioning to wrestling. The two crowds aren't the same. I just don't see wrestling being able to capture a significant percentage of MMA fans. I disagree with you that there's many similarities between the two, aside from some marketing strategies here and there when it comes to the sport or entertainment aspect of the two where are there any similarities?

-A staggering number of people who describe themselves as MMA fans were pro wrestling fans at some point (hi rob!), although many have given up on it (see above). Many studies have backed this up, and no matter what he says in public, Dana White knows it better than anyone. Just look at the way he promotes his product. Also, as UFC buyrates have risen, wrestling buyrates have fallen at almost identical percentages. Draw your own conclusions.

Who wasn't a wrestling fan at some point in their lives? Poll NFL fans and you'll find the same numbers.

-Don't even get me started on Japan, where prowres/MMA are interchangable, promoted by the same people, and covered as if they are the same entity. Different culture, but they simply aren't snobbish about prowres and recoginize the obvious similarities. (To be fair, wrestling has always been viewed as more of a respected art form in Japan, as opposed to being considered low brow "trash" entertainment in North America)

Two entirely different cultures. I wouldn't go so far as to saying that Americans view it as trash, but your typical male American craves something that's real and oozes machismo (to steal a line from Razor Ramon). That's hard hitting football, boxing, MMA, war movies, etc. Japanese are usually more into the artsy stuff, stories, dramatics, so that's why it flies so well over there and is much more of a niche thing here in America.

-MMA fans generally like boxing.

-Boxing fans generally dislike MMA. Alot has to do with the media contrived "war" that doesn't really exist. Mostly it has to do with old boxing writers and TV media feeling threatened by MMA and ripping it to shreds in columns/rants/diatribes. This trickles down to fans, who view MMA as less technical, and buy into the "barfight" stereotype.



-Boxing/prowres have very little crossover, with the exception of latinos (particularly mexicans). Ironically, it's the latino population that has largely kept boxing relevent, it's white/blacks/younger demos where the interest has slipped over the last 10-15 years or so.

I agree that MMA fans rarely cross over to wretling. It's the other way around. Your typical MMA fan has moved on

Agreed

 

[Point Blank]

Brock Newb? lol.

I hate Brock Lesnar.

Im just waiting for that one big show to pull me back into reading this forum everyday.

Rampage vs Rashad perhaps?

 

[Bigpapa42]

lol, nothing against the guys who like both, BigPapa was one of the OG MMA posters at MM, you, Empire, Shogun post a lot about both topics, BigPapa has pretty much given up posting about MMA for a while now, I sent him messages multiple times over at MM and VSN, just seems like he lost the fire

Like I said on the first page, I still watch as much as ever. If not moreso. I just don't feel the burning desire to discuss it that much anymore. Much the same with football.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Like I said on the first page, I still watch as much as ever. If not moreso. I just don't feel the burning desire to discuss it that much anymore. Much the same with football.

I mean, can you imagine a BigPapa thread THIS inspired here in the MMA forum?

 

[clovett]

I'm honored that I was even noticed on this forum. I only post in the MMA forum. Kind of in the same boat as Papa, my work went all commie on us and blocked all internet usage at work. Can only post on breaks or lunch. And then when I get home I spend that time with my kids. I apologize if I've let anyone down.

 

[RosettaStoned]

Damn, I didn't even get a mention and I've won the other sports award...

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

Damn, I didn't even get a mention and I've won the other sports award...

meh...been so long since you posted we forgot you ever did.