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Coyotes file for bankruptcy protection

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http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/9543588/Bettman-skeptical-of-Balsillie-offer-for-Coyotes

Bettman skeptical of Balsillie offer for Coyotes

NEW YORK (AP) - NHL commissioner Gary Bettman is skeptical of Jim Balsillie's offer to buy the Phoenix Coyotes, saying he isn't sure the BlackBerry boss could gain approval of league owners.

Canada's revenge? Canada looks like it might finally be able to take a team away from the U.S. See some of the franchises America has taken from its northern neighbor.
The NHL stripped current Coyotes owner Jerry Moyes of the authority to run the club Tuesday after Moyes announced the team had filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. Balsillie announced a plan to buy the financially troubled team and move it to Canada, where they were the Winnipeg Jets before moving to Phoenix for the 1996-97 season.

"I don't know whether or not he could get approved," Bettman said Wednesday during a discussion of commissioners from the four major U.S. pro sports leagues, sponsored by The Wall Street Journal. "That's, as I said, something I don't get a vote on. If in fact it becomes an issue for board consideration, the board of governors of the league will make that decision."

Balsillie, co-CEO of BlackBerry maker Research In Motion, said his $212.5 million offer is conditional on the Coyotes relocating to Canada.

The team's Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing included the proposed sale of the franchise to PSE Sports & Entertainment, LP.


Bettman said the filing occurred "not because creditors were lurking and seeking redress for not being paid, but because there was an offer apparently from Mr. Balsillie to buy the franchise and move it."

"This is not about whether or not we want a franchise in southern Ontario. This is not about whether or not Mr. Balsillie would make a suitable owner that the owners would approve. This is about the league's rules and the enforceability of our rules," Bettman said.

"Whether or not Mr. Moyes even had the authority to file the bankruptcy petition is something we're going to get into. This is more about the tactic and I think a challenge to league rules than it is about economic condition of the club, which we believe can with new ownership and with the accommodations the city of Glendale is prepared to make, we think can succeed."

Bettman sounded as if the league wouldn't approve a move of the Coyotes right now.

"We generally try to avoid relocating franchises unless you absolutely have to," he said. "We think when a franchise is in trouble, you try and fix the problems. That's what we did in Pittsburgh and Ottawa and Buffalo prior to our work stoppage. That's what we did when the perception was that five out of the six Canadian franchises around the turn of the century were in trouble. We fixed the problems. We don't run out on cities."

There's more news about this, i could post in a while, but imo, the Coyotes need to move, and if they're gonna go to Canada, so be it.

Bettman needs to let it go, let them move...he's been holding the team from leaving Phoenix for a couple years now and this is what happens.
 
bettman is a fucking dickhead that isn't looking out for the best interests of the league.

all these shitty ass southern teams are surviving off the incredible profits of the Leafs and Canadiens.

instead of having these teams who are basically living off social security, why not tap the gold mine that is southern ontario?

leaf fans would pack that place full, since only suits get to go to actual leaf games.
 
exactly.

I personally think that there shouldn't be any teams south of kentucky and west of the mississippi, unless the city / state has a good winter season, the southern teams don't have a following at all.

I hate living in FL not being able to watch the fucking Panthers or Lightning, because they aren't on regular tv.

Well, i hated it until i got Center Ice. lol.
 
LOL

there is no local broadcast for those clubs?



fucking unreal......


yeah, i don't know how it's like in Tampa and Sunrise, but there's 0% coverage of any NHL team down here.

It's so ridiculous, i don't know how the southern or hot-climated teams make money.
 
yeah, i don't know how it's like in Tampa and Sunrise, but there's 0% coverage of any NHL team down here.

It's so ridiculous, i don't know how the southern or hot-climated teams make money.

the only numbers I can find are from 07-08

Tampa actually had a positive operating income that season....while Florida was well in the red.

Profit sharing keeps everyone afloat...well almost everyone. lol


Move these useless teams up north to Canada.

Give Quebec City another chance. :)

I'd love to see it.
 
I really think that Quebec, Ontario, Winnipeg, Hartford, and a couple other cities deserve teams.
Take these southern teams and move them up north, if they think they're making a profit where they are now, wait until they move into a city where hockey's the #1 sport.
 
One of the reasons was he didn't want to move teams from markets where they have fans. Didn't think it was fair, yet they have done it enough times already.
 
Enlighten me, why doesn't he want to take the easy money of these Canadian cities?

The Canadian government has ridiculous tax laws (evidently Obama is trying to follow the Canadian model), so its virtually impossible for an NHL team to be consistently profitable in Canada.
 
Which part was too difficult for you to understand?

probably the part i bolded.

you do know that toronto and montreal are canadian cities right?

toronto has been in the green the past decade

montreal has been in the green in all but on season in the last decade

vancouver has been in the green or even (one year) in the past 6 seasons

edmonton has been green or even in 9 of the past 10 seasons

ottawa has been green or even in the past 4 seasons

calgary has been green or even in 4 of the 5 past seasons



again I say

wut
 
probably the part i bolded.

you do know that toronto and montreal are canadian cities right?

toronto has been in the green the past decade

montreal has been in the green in all but on season in the last decade

vancouver has been in the green or even (one year) in the past 6 seasons

edmonton has been green or even in 9 of the past 10 seasons

ottawa has been green or even in the past 4 seasons

calgary has been green or even in 4 of the 5 past seasons



again I say

wut


Gee, Montreal and Toronto are Canadian cities? Thanks. I thought Winnipeg and Quebec City were also Canadian cities. My bad.

Good to know that you saying "Calgary has been green or even in 4 of the 5 past seasons" is somehow relevant to Canadian tax law. Didn't know that 'even' means 'consistently profitable', either. And those remaining Canadian teams have been tearing up the NHL thanks to their huge profit margin, no?

Do you follow hockey at all? Just curious. Or maybe you were just comatose from 1995-2005.
 
Gee, Montreal and Toronto are Canadian cities? Thanks. I thought Winnipeg and Quebec City were also Canadian cities. My bad.

Good to know that you saying "Calgary has been green or even in 4 of the 5 past seasons" is somehow relevant to Canadian tax law. Didn't know that 'even' means 'profitable', either. And those remaining Canadian teams have been tearing up the NHL thanks to their huge profit margin, while

Do you follow hockey at all? Just curious. Or maybe you were just comatose from 1995-2005.

I'm not disputing tax law. Did you fail to notice my not so subtle hint that I was commenting on you saying it's impossible to be consistently profitable as a Canadian hockey franchise. Oh no, you didn't.

I didn't realize it was 1999, last time I checked it was 2009 and while some of these teams weren't doing well during THAT time, things have changed.

Do you always live in the past? Just curious. Or maybe you were comatose from 2005-now
 
I'm not disputing tax law. Did you fail to notice my not so subtle hint that I was commenting on you saying it's impossible to be consistently profitable as a Canadian hockey franchise. Oh no, you didn't.

I didn't realize it was 1999, last time I checked it was 2009 and while some of these teams weren't doing well during THAT time, things have changed.

Do you always live in the past? Just curious. Or maybe you were comatose from 2005-now

Again, I didn't know that 'even' means 'consistently profitable'. I also didn't know that because you type something that makes it fact. And maybe I was wrong...did Quebec secede from Canada and I missed it? Or is Quebec City still part of Canada?

Where are you finding your profit numbers?
 
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Again, I didn't know that 'even' means 'consistently profitable'. I also didn't know that because you type something that makes it fact. And maybe I was wrong...did Quebec secede from Canada and I missed it? Or is Quebec City still part of Canada?

So lets see here...tax law, teams fleeing Canada, remaining Canadian teams sucking...yeah, you must be right.

I'm arguing your one statement. I don't care for your opinions on Canadian Tax Law or Canadian teams 'sucking'.

I gathered my information from forbes, I'm not spewing out things off the top of my head.

The locker room is slow today I'm guessing?
 
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