Dan Henderson's resume, one of the best ever

[Kuzzy Powers]

can you ever talk like a real fan and not a guy who starting watching because of TUF?

Cant talk like something you arent.

 

[Liquidrob]

Are you saying I'm wrong?

I would say Shogun had more impact

 

[EmpireWF]

I would say Shogun had more impact

I'd love to hear your argument (besides Shogun beating him).

Liddell is probably the biggest mainstream star in the sports history. Any "mount rushmore of MMA" has to include him.

Shogun is a great fighter and is the best 205er in the world....but so what? Mount Rushmore deal isn't simply about who is the best pure fighter. If it were, Royce Grace wouldn't be on. And Fedor wouldn't be on anymore.

 

[Liquidrob]

who gives a shit about casual fan mainstream impact or whatever you want to call it, we're talking about the greats in the sport

Chuck was never even the number 1 in his division, not even close to number 1 fighter in the world

Royce was the number 1 fighter in the sport for years, Shogun was a top P4P fighter in the sport, and now is still number 1 in his division

Royce, Sakuraba, Shogun, Fedor, And1, GSP, Hughes > Chuck and Randy

Hendo > Randy easily

Kimbo Slice had a greater 'impact' than the majority of MMA fighters, so just stop with the casual fan, mainstream, BS and talk like a fan of the sport

 

[EmpireWF]

No matter how much you loathe it...Chuck is up there.

Anyway who would be your four rushmores?

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Where is Matt Whoghes in all of this? I am sure Hendo #1, but who is #2. Captain American or Matt Hughes?

 

[SHOGUN]

Although he has double digit losses, he has huge wins including multiple title runs and is the most beloved fighter of all-time.

:nope:

 

[EmpireWF]

:nope:

I'll give Sakuraba his due for being the one man who held up the Japanese industry.

Watching him nowadays though, it's a mixture of emotions...sad, apathy, KICK ASS AGAIN, :ninja2:

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

no doubt Hendo is one of the GOAT. never a big talker, just went out and did what he had do to. his run through the welterweight tourney Pride had back in 05 was awesome.

 

[Steel Mamba]

All the great 205ers were in Pride during Chuck's reign in the UFC. You see what happened when he fought in Pride and when the Pride guys came to the UFC.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

All the great 205ers were in Pride during Chuck's reign in the UFC. You see what happened when he fought in Pride and when the Pride guys came to the UFC.

This argument was settled long ago.

Although he has double digit losses, he has huge wins including multiple title runs and is the most beloved fighter of all-time.

Nobody says he's the best of all-time, but considering the whole package, he's one of the most key figures in the sports history.

Hendo wasnt as charismatic as Randy. Randys age and dramatic fashion made those fights huge.

Randys name was much bugger but Hendo has never really been out of elite status.

And frankly nothing on Randys highlight reel tops this....nothing says mount Rushmore and Captain America better than knocking the shit out of a stupid Brit.

Even Chuck wouldnt be up there, he fought in a weak LHW division, of the best were in Pride, Shogun had a better career than Chuck

can you ever talk like a real fan and not a guy who starting watching because of TUF?

Who gives a hoot when someone started watching. You like to throw that card around meanwhile theres noone more biased than you are.

who gives a shit about casual fan mainstream impact or whatever you want to call it, we're talking about the greats in the sport

Chuck was never even the number 1 in his division, not even close to number 1 fighter in the world

Royce was the number 1 fighter in the sport for years, Shogun was a top P4P fighter in the sport, and now is still number 1 in his division

Royce, Sakuraba, Shogun, Fedor, And1, GSP, Hughes > Chuck and Randy

Hendo > Randy easily

Kimbo Slice had a greater 'impact' than the majority of MMA fighters, so just stop with the casual fan, mainstream, BS and talk like a fan of the sport

Im pretty sure Mount Rushmore presidents were chosen based on popularity and helping the growth and expansion of the U.S. So the point about Randy are more than valid.

Even with that if your going mount "rushmore" is there a cut off ? Isnt it more of a "forefathers" argument ? GSP/Shogun seem out of place on that list.

Where is Matt Whoghes in all of this? I am sure Hendo #1, but who is #2. Captain American or Matt Hughes?

Hendo fought in two weight classes and has a stupid resume.
Hughes dominated a division.

Id give it to Hendo but I can see the argument for Hughes.



Royce , Fedor , are locks.

Shamrock, Rutten , Ortiz, Liddell , Hendo , Sakuraba , Wandy , Hughes ,Randy.

Off the top of my head all those guys started in the 90s making them still part of that old guard.
Which two had the best combination of success/impact/fame ?