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David Stern to Retire in 2014

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http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/sports&id=8860067

Silver has reportedly already been approved by the owners to take over.

NEW YORK -- NBA commissioner David Stern will announce late Thursday that he is retiring on Feb. 1, 2014, multiple sources tell ESPN.com's Marc Stein.

The elevation of Adam Silver, Stern's deputy, to commissioner was unanimously approved Thursday by the NBA Board of Governors, the sources said.

Stern, 70, has been the NBA's commissioner since Feb. 1, 1984. Last December, at the time a new collective bargaining agreement was announced, he predicted it would be the final labor deal before he steps down.

Stern's first work for the league came in 1966 as outside counsel. As commissioner, he has guided the league through the eras of Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan, achieving dramatic new heights of popularity. For many NBA fans, he is the only commissioner they have known.
 
I've never liked Stern. I view him on the same level as Vince McMahon Jr. Total scumbag with a good sense of timing.
 
I've never liked Stern. I view him on the same level as Vince McMahon Jr. Total scumbag with a good sense of timing.

“It’s always about timing. If it’s too soon, no one understands. If it’s too late, everyone’s forgotten.”
 
and this thread continues to prove that fans have no idea about commissioners in sport. they are the unified voice of the owners. just a puppet.
 
and this thread continues to prove that fans have no idea about commissioners in sport. they are the unified voice of the owners. just a puppet.

Unless you are David Stern or Bud Selig, then you also own a team in the league.
 
and this thread continues to prove that fans have no idea about commissioners in sport. they are the unified voice of the owners. just a puppet.

In labor talks I agree with you, but I don't understand what your comment has to do with the thread. While it is true that a commissioner represents the owners and at times is a puppet a commissioner does have power and influence on the league that he governs. Stern has had a great influence over the NBA which includes it's successes and failures.
 
I've never liked Stern. I view him on the same level as Vince McMahon Jr. Total scumbag with a good sense of timing.

Technically, Vince isn't a "Jr.", even though everybody calls him that. He's Vincent Kennedy McMahon.

Veteran wrestlers (especially guys who dealt with both the father & son over the years) always refer to Vince as "Junior", which infuriates him to no end. In fact, McMahon is so insecure about being called "Junior", that there is an official ban on using the word 'junior' to refer to anybody in the WWE, including second generation wrestlers like Ted Dibiase Jr and luchadors like Rey Misterio Jr, who are simply referred to as Ted Dibiase & Rey Misterio, even though there are elder wrestlers who use the same names.

There are three things you don't do around Vince. Smoke, sneeze, or call him "junior".
 
Between now and his departure, Stern is determined to get a franchise back into Seattle, league sources said. He has become a strong ally of Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer's group to bring back the NBA there. Ballmer's group has been trying to get the Maloof family to sell the Sacramento Kings, so that the franchise can eventually play in a new arena in Seattle.

From the league office, pressure on the Maloofs to sell has been growing, sources said – just as hopes for a new Sacramento arena have been fading. Seattle Sonics fans will never forgive Stern for his complicit role in Clay Bennett's deception to move that franchise to Oklahoma City, but make no mistake: Stern desperately wants to return the NBA to one of its great markets and wants it for his own measure of vindication before he leaves office.

As one source involved in the process said, "Stern has enough time to get a team back to Seattle, but he'll let Silver deal with the crowd [booing] on opening night."

Wojo's not-so-flattering article on Stern.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--d...promote-the-myth-of-david-stern-25321709.html
 
idk why he gets so much hate?

NBA went from being super popular to almost dying to again being popular.

Lots of people talk about basketball and the whole they are just thugs talk seem to be dying down.

Also NBA has grown globally under stern. Huge in asia and the rest of the world.
 
Although I dislike the guy, I think he's been a solid commissioner. He's grown the league here and abroad, dealt with the loss of a "player of a generation" and generally avoided nearly every scandal that has hit the other major sports.
 
The biggest mistake Stern ever made was embracing the hip hop culture, because that ultimately led to white males 30-60 losing interest in the league in droves, and only now do you see them trickling back in. An NBA game over the last decade is pretty low down the list of things a suburban white family wanted to do on family night. Much of that is based on stigmas and stereotypes, but these are things that were in Stern's control.

Now that there is a generation of young white adults that grew up on hip hop, this issue is slowly evaporating. But there is no question it set the NBA back, and helped exemplify negative stigmas when a black NBA player would be arrested or get into trouble. When black NFL players get into trouble (at higher rates than NBA players according to most studies), the "thug" stigma is less likely to come into play.

Why? Take a look at the NFL. You aren't inundated with blaring rap music in your ear during every timeout, which was a problem in NBA arenas that has since been corrected. You rarely see the NFL affiliated with non family friendly musical acts or sponsors, especially since nip slip, but again this was something Stern let get a bit out of control a few years ago, and the league is just now distancing itself from that stuff. NFL ownership is an exclusive club. Jay Z owns an NBA team. Rightly or wrongly, there are people turned off by that.

Aside from that period where the NBA was no longer viewed as 'wholesome', to me, Stern has done a great job. Yes, he lucked into Bird, Magic, and Jordan. Bird & Magic were charismatic and non threatening, and Jordan was so good at protecting his image, that he came off that way as well. So while the NBA did a great job marketing those guys, it was also pretty easy.

The current batch of stars is not nearly as likable. Players like Kobe & Lebron (& now Howard) and equally loved and hated, but probably more hated (at least in Lebron's case, maybe not Kobe). The league lacks charisma, and there is not much Stern can do about that. Players like Durant & Paul & Iguodala are invisible personalities, more Clyde Drexler like than Charles Barkley or Reggie Miller, let alone Bird or Magic.

The second biggest mistake Stern has made is still an issue and has not been corrected. The modern player does not respect the coaches or GM's. The star player calls the shots. Players not only demand trades, but dictate the destination. This rubs fans the wrong way.

Stern can not control parity. Basketball has lacked parity since the days of white guys throwing each other chest passes and shooting two handed jumpers. It's the nature of the sport. Luxury tax, Bird Rule, salary cap, all of these things are intended to help, but none do and you cant fix it. It's a star driven sport that can be won by a dominant individual, you wont win without one (or two or three).

The league probably has too many teams. But so do other leagues (NHL, and probably the NFL). Big deal.

The bottom line is the NBA has grown tremendously on the Stern watch. He inherited a drug filled league that was airing the NBA Finals on tape delay at 2am. After a rough period the last decade or so, the league has bounced back and is once again thriving. Overall it's impossible to chalk up the Stern era as nothing other than a success.
 
About the NBA/NFL hypocrisy stuff you talked about...I'd venture to guess attending an NFL game is the worst experience of any of the major sports, but the NFL machine just rolls right over that fact.

The second biggest mistake Stern has made is still an issue and has not been corrected. The modern player does not respect the coaches or GM's. The star player calls the shots. Players not only demand trades, but dictate the destination. This rubs fans the wrong way.

As for this...it's a significant problem. The most recent examples in NY (Melo pushing D'Antoni out) and Orlando (Dwight getting Van Gundy pushed) are cases where ownership wants to make their stars as happy as can be. In the NBA, unless you have a legendary coach (and maybe there are 3 tops today), the owner is always catering to the superstar. Coaches in general don't have the impact on winning/losing or business as the player does.

The other thing is definitely players (under contract) dictating where they go via trade. It's just a bad look when you have guys in uniform for 1 team trying to maneuver themselves to a big market team of their choosing. GM's don't have the balls to call them out on it or call their bluff for fear of not getting anything in return and being shit canned.
 
About the NBA/NFL hypocrisy stuff you talked about...I'd venture to guess attending an NFL game is the worst experience of any of the major sports, but the NFL machine just rolls right over that fact.

I'm sure I'm just spoiled, but nothing is better than attending a Packers game at Lambeau.
 
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