DeMarcus Ware

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

I believe the salt means salted...also known as maybe burned or whatnot decide whatever you wish for its meaning...Ware has more sacks...but Harrison with his FF really almost evens them out...if you count just sacks then Ware is number one obviously, but ovr Harrison looks better because he creates more turnovers

 

[Maestro]

Fuck You Leftwich, Trent Dilfer isn't top 5 QB of all time. He is top 5 ESPN football analyst of all time.

Now shut the fuck up and keep me posted on the O's

Whoa Whoa Whoa,do not insult the great ESPN analyst like that.

 

[Point Blank]

sorry tru i must be to tired to get it but salt???....lmao

..Salty..lol

 

[dboy_dc]

I see what yall saying about Harrison... Force Fumbles are a part of the keys to the Steelers victories. So Harrison is up there, but do yall see how Eli, Big Ben, and the other victims of D. Ware look after he sacks them? lol. I mean they look like they be in a train wreak, and then when they focus on Ware, Mr. Ratliff, B. James, and Ellis get their sacks as well.

 

[dboy_dc]

But you can say the same for the Steelers...

Ask Cassel how he felt after Harrison sacked and stripped him twice. Ask ya boy Tony Romo how he felt when Harrison stripped him. Want to focus on Harrison? Woodley's right there. Farrior and Timmons too. Not to mention Casey Hampton getting his two sacks a year in, and with that weight falling on you, you're fucked. Aaron Smith gets his sacks in too, even though our line is completely a run stopping line.

IMO that's the best type of D-Line to have. But I can see your point... It's a tough choice.

 

[dboy_dc]

Eh, that all depends on what defense you're running. If I'm running a 3-4 then I want run stoppers on the line. 4-3, and I'd go for pass rushers.

Can't forget about Porter beasting it in Miami either.

Oh yea I mentioned him in my first post. Joey been consistent over the years also.

 

[steeljake]

yea he has, people forget that porter was hurt last year and thats why his numbers were down. they got rid of taylor and thomas and now he is healthy and he is a beast.

i agree that harrison causes more fumbles, but he has a ton of help around him. woodley, farrior, foote and timmons all can get to the qb and the d-line is just as nasty even with kiesel missing time.

i dont know much about the supporting cast of ware, but i saw a few other guys getting sacks against the giants so it looks like he has some help.

Right now i say porter is #1, ware is 2 (just because he could break the record) and harrison is 2 A.

 

[Bmore]

Personally when it comes to DPOY, I would put Polamalu ahead of them all.

 

[steeljake]

stats ftl

 

[kmanharris]

stats ftl

why? because they show that Ware and Harrison are about the same and against common opponents Ware is better?

 

[Primetime]

Because he just got bested and has nothing to back up his arguement anymore. I think they call that pawnage.

 

[DSpydr84]

I hate when people use stats. The last thing I would ever use when evaluating a player's talent would be his statistics.

As far as Ware and Harrison are concerned, I've barely seen either of them play to make any judgement.

 

[steeljake]

they are both great and bith are assests to their team. stat only show what the player does that you see. how many times has ware or harrison disrupted aplay and forced a ball carrier into a pile of his teamates? or caused the qb to roll into the blitz or force a quick throw that gets picked? stats are ok, but without any other evidence, stats are ftl.


sorry i couldnt answer right away, i had my life to tend to instead of just sitting on a message board and talking smack, my bad.

 

[dboy_dc]

I like to see numbers becuz numbers never lie.

(when I'm bored at work I talk smack all day^^^^^^^^^)

 

[DSpydr84]

The numbers don't lie, but they're not telling the whole truth either.

 

[kmanharris]

I agree they don' tell the whole truth but stats are what are looked at when determining DPOTY or any play of the year award for that matter

 

[dboy_dc]

The numbers don't lie, but they're not telling the whole truth either.

I bet if you loaned me $20 dollars and I tried to pay you $5 you'd look at me crazy lol

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