Does Fedor even care anymore?

[Liquidrob]

You would think after getting subbed so quick, losing for the first time in forever he would have worked out a little harder this time, he needs to hit up Walker for his bread and soup diet

 

[Bigpapa42]

Probably not. I'm not so sure he ever really did. I don't get the feeling the guy cares that much about dominance, legacy, being a star, any of that. He wants to get paid and do his thing. That's it.

 

[EmpireWF]

Stop looking at Fedor's boobies.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I hope to god Fedor kicks some serious ass in this tournament, because it's really frustrating how casuals rip him to pieces since he lost to Werdum. Fuckers who have no perspective and likely have only seen the Rogers & Werdum fights.

In that respect, Fedor shares an odd relationship to Brock Lesnar, as two guys who are unfairly criticized by people who were just waiting to pile on after a bad loss.

 

[Mogriffjr]

Fedor's never going to be a guy who looks ripped...that kinda looks normal for him actually lol...maybe the gut is a bit bigger?

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

I personally dont think Fedor has cared for some time. Mafia 1 owns is ass at this point, hes just trying to get his money, go to church, and eat ice cream. I honestly think Fedor would have no problem hanging it up right now and retiring to some forest in Kazan.

 

[Liquidrob]

I dotn think its just lighting, he has lost some mass, and become rounder, this was thw weigh in with Big Tim I believe

old school fedor

 

[EmpireWF]

When was the pic from? 2003? He's not fighting as much these days so he's hardly going to look svelte.

 

[Liquidrob]

Fedor is 34 I believe, it's not like he is an old man

 

[EmpireWF]

Whether he has extra gut or not, who cares? As long as he's not spending 23 hours a day on his sofa watching old PRIDE tapes, I'd venture to say he's still a top 3 heavyweight in terms of ass kicking ability.

Now if he looks horrible next week....fuck.

 

[Steel Mamba]

I hope to god Fedor kicks some serious ass in this tournament, because it's really frustrating how casuals rip him to pieces since he lost to Werdum. Fuckers who have no perspective and likely have only seen the Rogers & Werdum fights.

In that respect, Fedor shares an odd relationship to Brock Lesnar, as two guys who are unfairly criticized by people who were just waiting to pile on after a bad loss.

Only W2B can find a way to compare Brock to Fedor, that's def not an easy feat. But, I gotta say it's two diff situations. With Fedor he has too much history on his side to trash him after one fight, Brock on the other hand never had that luxury. Maybe people were waiting to pile on Brock, but at the end of the day their criticisms weren't wrong.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

I hope to god Fedor kicks some serious ass in this tournament, because it's really frustrating how casuals rip him to pieces since he lost to Werdum. Fuckers who have no perspective and likely have only seen the Rogers & Werdum fights.

i agree. its not like he was undefeated his entire career and was the most badass motherfucker on the planet. the fight game is a fickle sport and your only as good as your last fight so this backlash was to be expected. fedor will earn his respect back on the 12th. and lol @ critiquing fedor's physique. hes never ever looked like your stereotypical "fighter" and now people are starting to nit-pick it. give it a rest

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Only W2B can find a way to compare Brock to Fedor, that's def not an easy feat. But, I gotta say it's two diff situations. With Fedor he has too much history on his side to trash him after one fight, Brock on the other hand never had that luxury. Maybe people were waiting to pile on Brock, but at the end of the day their criticisms weren't wrong.

The guy beat Mir, Herring, Couture, and Carwin, all basically as a novice. All of the MMA elistist picked him to lose all of those fights (well, maybe not the Herring fight, but I dont really remember), and ended up wrong. "Well, Mir isnt that good...Couture is old...Carwin gassed..." could never just give the guy credit. He loses to Cain, in a fight where he was pretty much expected to lose by anyone who had a clue, and everyone piled on.

If Lesnar was a guy straight out of collegiate wrestling, jumping into the deep end of the pool like he did, with that level of success, he would be a cult figure among the elitist. But, as we all know, he committed the ungodly, unforgivable crime of being a phoney pro wrestler, which for reasons unknown chafes the ass of sherdorks and elitists.

Nothing he achieved matters, only the loss to Cain, because that justifies the years of saying it would happen. Well, eventually they would have turned out right.

Brock and Fedor are the two most unfairly criticized fighters in the world.

 

[Liquidrob]

Warner

beating Mir is not impressive, the guy was pounded out by Ian Freeman, Marcio Cruz and made Vera look like the next big thing

Couture is not a legit HW who came off a year lay off, plus Brock had over 60 pounds on him

Carwin is Bret Rogers at this point with less of a gas tank, all these guys are hype besides Randy who I always said is more of a good story than a great all time fighter

You fell for the hype of the 'New Breed of HW' (Lesnar, Carwin, Cain, Duffee) when the only legit guy from that group is Cain

He was never, I repeat, never the number 1 HW in the world

He is a good fighter who got some nice wins early but was mostly hype, please lets get back to the days where you need more than 5 fights to be called the best or elite

 

[Liquidrob]

i agree. its not like he was undefeated his entire career and was the most badass motherfucker on the planet. the fight game is a fickle sport and your only as good as your last fight so this backlash was to be expected. fedor will earn his respect back on the 12th. and lol @ critiquing fedor's physique. hes never ever looked like your stereotypical "fighter" and now people are starting to nit-pick it. give it a rest

Its a valid critique

No one is saying he should be ripped or whatever because thats not him, but he is only 34 and looks softer and smaller than normal

You would think he would come back more focused and it would show in his physique some what

 

[EmpireWF]

You would think he would come back more focused and it would show in his physique some what

You must be Vince McMahon if you think being 'focused' means having a six pack.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Warner

beating Mir is not impressive, the guy was pounded out by Ian Freeman, Marcio Cruz and made Vera look like the next big thing

Couture is not a legit HW who came off a year lay off, plus Brock had over 60 pounds on him

Carwin is Bret Rogers at this point with less of a gas tank, all these guys are hype besides Randy who I always said is more of a good story than a great all time fighter

You fell for the hype of the 'New Breed of HW' (Lesnar, Carwin, Cain, Duffee) when the only legit guy from that group is Cain

He was never, I repeat, never the number 1 HW in the world

He is a good fighter who got some nice wins early but was mostly hype, please lets get back to the days where you need more than 5 fights to be called the best or elite

You are responding to things I didn't even say.

I'm not talking about being #1 in the world. I'm talking about this idea that he is a bum and a fraud. Your critiques arfe fair, aside from discrediting his opponents, especially when you picked every one of those guys to beat him. When you look at what he's done as a novice, he should be praised as a prodigy, not labeled as a fraud. Its crazy.

Go say he is a "good fighter" over on the strikegeek forum, and see what I'm talking about. People are emotional when it comes to Brock, and he isn't treated fairly. He's reached "so overated he's underated" status.

 

[Liquidrob]

You must be Vince McMahon if you think being 'focused' means having a six pack.

yeah, like I said that, he doesnt even look like he used to or even from the Tim fight which wasnt even that long ago

When you put the work in it usually shows, unless he completely changed his training and just runs now, but he always has done that

 

[Liquidrob]

You are responding to things I didn't even say.

I'm not talking about being #1 in the world. I'm talking about this idea that he is a bum and a fraud. Your critiques arfe fair, aside from discrediting his opponents, especially when you picked every one of those guys to beat him. When you look at what he's done as a novice, he should be praised as a prodigy, not labeled as a fraud. Its crazy.

Go say he is a "good fighter" over on the strikegeek forum, and see what I'm talking about. People are emotional when it comes to Brock, and he isn't treated fairly. He's reached "so overated he's underated" status.

I wouldnt praise him as a prodigy, he 'was' a big, explosive guy who has wrestling skills

He just doesnt put the work in from what I see, with his lack of training yu cant just do 'training camps' before a big fight and go hunting the reast of the time when not training, the sport is to vast for that

Guys like Cain, JDS, will eat him up

I dont think people understand how different he is from when he beat Randy and Mir, he had the huge advantage of being 280 come fight time and still quick as hell for that size, he is not that guy since the 'illness', he doesnt even cut to 265

Now you throw in the factor of not liking to take a hit and he is even a bigger question mark, this is why you dont hype the hell out of guys after a couple fights, they become Bob Sapp

 

[Liquidrob]

Also, I said the Brock/Carwin fight was a 50/50 fight, only picked Carwin because Brock was out for a while