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Does Fedor even care anymore?

Warner2BruceTD said:
The guy beat Mir, Herring, Couture, and Carwin, all basically as a novice. All of the MMA elistist picked him to lose all of those fights (well, maybe not the Herring fight, but I dont really remember), and ended up wrong. "Well, Mir isnt that good...Couture is old...Carwin gassed..." could never just give the guy credit. He loses to Cain, in a fight where he was pretty much expected to lose by anyone who had a clue, and everyone piled on.

If Lesnar was a guy straight out of collegiate wrestling, jumping into the deep end of the pool like he did, with that level of success, he would be a cult figure among the elitist. But, as we all know, he committed the ungodly, unforgivable crime of being a phoney pro wrestler, which for reasons unknown chafes the ass of sherdorks and elitists.

Nothing he achieved matters, only the loss to Cain, because that justifies the years of saying it would happen. Well, eventually they would have turned out right.

Brock and Fedor are the two most unfairly criticized fighters in the world.
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We're all guilty of having some degree of bias. MMA fans are probably some of the biggest purists that there is and I see nothing wrong with that. Look at all of the people who were against James Toney, I guess he committed the sin of being a pro boxer? Whatever the case both of their backgrounds are beside the point because the nay sayers about Toney were right just as they were with Lesnar. The guys were green and over their head, put in a position that they hadn't yet earned in this sport. Everyone knew what Lesnar's weaknesses were, but you still had wrestling fans ready to consider this guy the next best thing.
 
Liquidrob said:
Its a valid critique

No one is saying he should be ripped or whatever because thats not him, but he is only 34 and looks softer and smaller than normal

You would think he would come back more focused and it would show in his physique some what
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34 aint exactly a spring chicken either. If he's never done that in his career, it's not going to happen at 34. He's out of his physical prime now and with the new breed of HWs he's going to be at a huge disadvantage.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
"Well, Mir isnt that good...Couture is old...Carwin gassed..." could never just give the guy credit. He loses to Cain, in a fight where he was pretty much expected to lose by anyone who had a clue, and everyone piled on.
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Liquidrob said:
Warner

beating Mir is not impressive, the guy was pounded out by Ian Freeman, Marcio Cruz and made Vera look like the next big thing

Couture is not a legit HW who came off a year lay off, plus Brock had over 60 pounds on him

Carwin is Bret Rogers at this point with less of a gas tank, all these guys are hype besides Randy who I always said is more of a good story than a great all time fighter

You fell for the hype of the 'New Breed of HW' (Lesnar, Carwin, Cain, Duffee) when the only legit guy from that group is Cain

He was never, I repeat, never the number 1 HW in the world

He is a good fighter who got some nice wins early but was mostly hype, please lets get back to the days where you need more than 5 fights to be called the best or elite
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You realize you just completely proved W2B point right ?



As for Fedor...
After that "he who doesnt fall doesnt stand up" speech he damn well better be taking this serious.
I love Fedor but I dont like when guys checkout mentally in sports. Its conniving people out of money.
 
KINGOFOOTBALL said:
You realize you just completely proved W2B point right ?



As for Fedor...
After that "he who doesnt fall doesnt stand up" speech he damn well better be taking this serious.
I love Fedor but I dont like when guys checkout mentally in sports. Its conniving people out of money.
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um, no

I said he is a good fighter, that is credit, but put his wins in perspective, without the UFC hype machine he wouldnt been ranked number 1 which he never should have, he wouldnt have people calling him 'the baddest man on the planet' after a couple fights, etc...
 
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Liquidrob said:
Athletes Can stay in shape and get in better shape, he is 34, not 64

He used to train hard, doesn't seem like it now
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I don't think you're going to find many guys who look better at 34 than they did at 24. Especially someone like Fedor who's completely natural. Once the testosterone levels start to dip, that's the result.
 
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