Emelianenko-Silva, HW Tourney Slated for Feb. 12

[Liquidrob]

Props to Bellator for denying Huerta and making it a non title fight this past season, btw. Only Bellator forces you to win your way to a title shot, they have the purest titles in the sport.

yes they do, which I said probably a year ago but all you yahoo's dont like tournaments for some reason and keep supporting match making for PPV buys

Bellator is run like the NFL, the UFC and SF are run like the BCS, but at least Strikeforce seems to be taking a step in the right direction

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I didnt justify the Rogers title shot at all, show me where I said that please

I said that Jeremy keeps posting this like Strikeforce has created this concept, Zuffa has been doing it for years, just facts like always from me

Im saying that he's saying that that's what you are saying.

got it?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

yes they do, which I said probably a year ago but all you yahoo's dont like tournaments for some reason and keep supporting match making for PPV buys

Bellator is run like the NFL, the UFC and SF are run like the BCS, but at least Strikeforce seems to be taking a step in the right direction

My argument has always been that tournaments won't work in big time north american MMA. The egos at the top are too big.

And one night tournaments, unfortunately, are disasters waiting to happen, where alternates often end up winning. History supports that.

Plus, tournaments historically don't sell, because people want to know what they are paying for.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

any plans to go rob? me, you, empire and anthony pound a few brew dogs in the parking lot then strut on in with our matching affliction tee's? im down

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

any plans to go rob? me, you, empire and anthony pound a few brew dogs in the parking lot then strut on in with our matching affliction tee's? im down

I would fly home for the weekend for this.

 

[Liquidrob]

My argument has always been that tournaments won't work in big time north american MMA. The egos at the top are too big.

And one night tournaments, unfortunately, are disasters waiting to happen, where alternates often end up winning. History supports that.

Plus, tournaments historically don't sell, because people want to know what they are paying for.

Tournaments are better than simple match making for 'money fights', I dont care about the promotions money and the fans shouldnt either

If the favorite losses, guess what, he lost and shouldnt be the champ either, I havent even brought on 1 night tournaments either, it doesnt have to be that, look at Bellator

MMA fans not wanting tournaments is really crazy to me, some of the biggest and most meaningful fights have come from them

 

[Liquidrob]

any plans to go rob? me, you, empire and anthony pound a few brew dogs in the parking lot then strut on in with our matching affliction tee's? im down

I am thinking about it actually

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

I would fly home for the weekend for this.

the prelims would be starting in the parking lot when rob calls empire a zombie and chucks a can at his head.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Tournaments are better than simple match making for 'money fights', I dont care about the promotions money and the fans shouldnt either

If the favorite losses, guess what, he lost and shouldnt be the champ either, I havent even brought on 1 night tournaments either, it doesnt have to be that, look at Bellator

MMA fans not wanting tournaments is really crazy to me, some of the biggest and most meaningful fights have come from them

I'm not saying I don't like tournaments you goof, i'm just explaining why they don't happen very often.

 

[Liquidrob]

I'm not saying I don't like tournaments you goof, i'm just explaining why they don't happen very often.

listen to me, you said you dont like tournaments and prefer match making, it's right there in black and white

 

[Liquidrob]

MMA junkie is reporting Fedor vs Big Foot and Arlovski vs Sergei, also the Werdum vs Rogers fight is not happening

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

MMA junkie is reporting Fedor vs Big Foot and Arlovski vs Sergei, also the Werdum vs Rogers fight is not happening

at all? the sherdog article mentioned that could happen in march.

 

[Liquidrob]

They said Coker has a 'big announcement' on Tuesday, to many leaks right now, only the Fedor vs Big Foot seems to be the legit one at this point

 

[Liquidrob]

at all? the sherdog article mentioned that could happen in march.

Maybe its a different match up, I dont like the Brett vs Werdum match, either fight Barnett, a young gun or just not be in it

If Overeem is in the tournament the 8 should be

Overeem
Werdum
Fedor
Barnett
AA
Sergei
Big Foot
And a guy like Shane Del Rosario, Lavar Johnson, Cormier, rumor is Coker offered Ishii a spot also, not sure how he fits in though, doesnt do much for them

Having Rogers in it doesnt help anyone, if there is an 'upset' than you want it to be a up and comer who you can build on, rogers is damaged goods at this point, even AA knocking someone off isnt that bad, he has a fan base, he had big success in the past and you play the 'AA is Back!' angle

 

[EmpireWF]

AA needs more than one KO to be back. Everyone's seen him get knocked the fuck out too many times at this point.

I like the idea of having guys like Del Rosario, Cormier, Ishii, etc. involved because they need fresh talent to be made in the heavyweight division. Guys like Fedor, Barnett, Arlovski won't be around for too much longer (ie. 2 years).

I think they're matching Arlovski with Kharitonov, hoping they either get a classic AA knockout win or a Kharitonov win (then they can cut AA).


My match-ups would look like this:

Fedor vs. Big Foot
Overeem vs. Josh Barnett


Arlovski vs. Kharitonov
Werdum vs. Daniel Cormier

 

[Liquidrob]

Cormier vs ishii would be a good alternate fight, 2 olympians

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Its officia, Fedor/Bigfoot, AA/Sergei, Overeem/Werdum, Rogers/Barnett.

-Fedor is too fast for Bigfoot, I see a KO rather quickly.

-Can't pick AA, he's washed up. Same can be said for his opponent, but he looked ok a few nights ago. This is the hardest one to pick, but I just can't pick AA at this point with that weak chin.

-Overeem will destroy Werdum. Werdum is still a bum.

-I like Barnett. He will get Rogers to the ground and manhandle him there. This is assuming Barnett is still Barnett. Flash KO is always possible with Rogers, but Barnett fights smart and I don't think he will allow himself to be in a postion to get caught, because there is nothing else to fear about Rogers game. I see this going down like the Yvel fight.

 

[calgaryballer]

Nice, I agree with almost everything you say there W2B. Any indication on how the brackets will shake out afterwards?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Fedor and Overeem are on opposite sides, for obvious reasons.

That's a dangerous game, if you feel like you have a money fight you should just make it. This is risky, but its high reward if they both get through to set up a ppv.

 

[Bigpapa42]

The more I think about this, the more I think its gonna fail. Don't get me wrong - I love the idea. The obvious hope is that Overeem and Fedor win out, setting up a fight with a ton of hype. Given the issues both fighters tend to have actually getting into the cage for SF, what are the odds that it would actually happen and be put together? One of them would be injured or "previously" engaged. We'll have Fedor & Overseem win out and still have a final of AA versus Rogers because they are available...

My hopes are high for this but my expectations are low.