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End of the year awards.

Antonio Bryant is definitely the Most Improved/Most Surprising Player in the league...

NO,Bryant has done this before,he plays well then once he gets resigned with a nice contract he plays like the sub-par receiver he is.
 
NO,Bryant has done this before,he plays well then once he gets resigned with a nice contract he plays like the sub-par receiver he is.

Well actually, I don't know if the NFL has a Most Improved/Most Surprising Player award.

However, I do know they have a Comeback Player of the Year Award, and he will/should definitely win that.
 
I want to comment on that.I was looking through stats and i saw Mason was having a good year.It was said somewhere else,in a pass heavy offesnse he shoudl be well over 1000yrds by now.I disagree,he was a great reciver,his speed has declined over the years and now,he isnt as good of a route runner.Still a solid reciver,but i dont think he is a #1 receiver but definitely a #2.

You play to much Madden.

Mason's speed, route running and hands are damn good. He would be a #1 on a couple of teams.

He doesn't have the big play ability, but he catches about 95% of the balls that come his way.

Nearly every year he is in the top 5 of the league in receptions.

Like I said, I can't take you seriously if he isn't even in your "other" list of receivers.
 
You play to much Madden.

Mason's speed, route running and hands are damn good. He would be a #1 on a couple of teams.

He doesn't have the big play ability, but he catches about 95% of the balls that come his way.

Nearly every year he is in the top 5 of the league in receptions.

Like I said, I can't take you seriously if he isn't even in your "other" list of receivers.


i think you may be a bigger homer than even that douche capt. slay-a-ho.
 
Well actually, I don't know if the NFL has a Most Improved/Most Surprising Player award.

However, I do know they have a Comeback Player of the Year Award, and he will/should definitely win that.

Thats usually given to a player coming off injury.

You play to much Madden.

Mason's speed, route running and hands are damn good. He would be a #1 on a couple of teams.

He doesn't have the big play ability, but he catches about 95% of the balls that come his way.

Nearly every year he is in the top 5 of the league in receptions.

Like I said, I can't take you seriously if he isn't even in your "other" list of receivers.

I left him out i will admit that,but youre giving him to much credit.He isnt fast anymore,he can still catch the ball,but without his speed and route running he cant do to mcuh.If i based it off of Madden then he would have been on there because he just got a raitings boost.

Calvin #9 best WR? REALLY?

Yep,it was a hard one to make.
 
I think what Calvin has done, being the ONLY weapon on that offense and with multiple QBs, is way too impressive to be considered #9.

Look at the other WR's on the list,its a great list Calvin just fell through the cracks,i stated it before him and Greg Jennings are the best young WR's in the game,Calvin has carried the offense,but hasnt carried them to a win.
 
no becuase anyone on your team not mentioned in a list of great players at that position is defended by you as being under rated and hated on.
 
no becuase anyone on your team not mentioned in a list of great players at that position is defended by you as being under rated and hated on.

1. you have no example of this.

2. When it comes to Defense or receiver, I can make a argument because the Ravens have top of the league players at those positions. :)
 
Look at the other WR's on the list,its a great list Calvin just fell through the cracks,i stated it before him and Greg Jennings are the best young WR's in the game,Calvin has carried the offense,but hasnt carried them to a win.

How can he lead them to a win? He doest call the plays, they only throw to him 7-8 times a game and its not his fault the defense is trash.
 
Thats usually given to a player coming off injury.
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Comeback player of the year is usually given to someone coming off an injury.. because people usually don't leave the game for other reasons.

Like if Vince Young played well next year, he'd probably win it.

Tommy Maddox won the award years ago, and he wasn't injured, he was playing in the XFL.

Antonio Bryant will win it this year.
 
Calvin Johnson's game-by-game stats:

ATL - 7 catches, 107 yards (15.3avg), 0 TDs
GB - 6 catches, 129 yards (21.5avg), 2 TDs
SF - 4 catches, 40 yards (10.0avg), 0 TDs
CHI - 2 catches, 16 yards (8.0avg), 0 TDs
MIN - 4 catches, 85 yards (21.3avg), 1 TD
HOU - 2 catches, 154 yards (77.0avg), 1 TD
WAS - 4 catches, 57 yards (14.3avg), 1 TD
CHI - 8 catches, 94 yards (11.8avg), 1 TD
JAC - 2 catches, 92 yards (46.0avg), 0 TDs
CAR - 6 catches, 65 yards (10.8avg), 1 TD
TB - 3 catches, 66 yards (22.0avg), 1 TD
TEN - 5 catches, 66 yards (13.2avg), 0 TDs
MIN - 3 catches, 84 yards (28.0avg), 1 TD


He is currently averaging 18.8 yards every time he touches the ball, and averaged a first down with every catch in all but one game. He also had 8 games with a catch of over 30 yards (and one game with a 29 yard catch). He is 6th in the league in yards, and 2nd in touchdowns, all the while having 8 games with 4 or less catches.

He is on the field with Shaun McDonald and John Standeford (who?), a rookie running back, and had 5 different quarterbacks (an NFL record). He is 6'5", 239 pounds, and ran a sub-4.4 at the combine.

I know Buzzman said he didn't want to say it, but I will: Calvin Johnson is the best receiver in football.
 
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1. you have no example of this.

2. When it comes to Defense or receiver, I can make a argument because the Ravens have top of the league players at those positions. :)

Defense yes,but receiver no.Derrick Mason is the only legit receiver.Mark Clayton is on and off,they dropped Williams,and Figures is just quick.



Comeback player of the year is usually given to someone coming off an injury.. because people usually don't leave the game for other reasons.

Like if Vince Young played well next year, he'd probably win it.

Tommy Maddox won the award years ago, and he wasn't injured, he was playing in the XFL.

Antonio Bryant will win it this year.

Yeah he could win it.

Calvin Johnson's game-by-game stats:

ATL - 7 catches, 107 yards (15.3avg), 0 TDs
GB - 6 catches, 129 yards (21.5avg), 2 TDs
SF - 4 catches, 40 yards (10.0avg), 0 TDs
CHI - 2 catches, 16 yards (8.0avg), 0 TDs
MIN - 4 catches, 85 yards (21.3avg), 1 TD
HOU - 2 catches, 154 yards (77.0avg), 1 TD
WAS - 4 catches, 57 yards (14.3avg), 1 TD
CHI - 8 catches, 94 yards (11.8avg), 1 TD
JAC - 2 catches, 92 yards (46.0avg), 0 TDs
CAR - 6 catches, 65 yards (10.8avg), 1 TD
TB - 3 catches, 66 yards (22.0avg), 1 TD
TEN - 5 catches, 66 yards (13.2avg), 0 TDs
MIN - 3 catches, 84 yards (28.0avg), 1 TD


He is currently averaging 18.8 yards every time he touches the ball, and averaged a first down with every catch in all but one game. He also had 8 games with a catch of over 30 yards (and one game with a 29 yard catch). He is 6th in the league in yards, and 2nd in touchdowns, all the while having 8 games with 4 or less catches.

He is on the field with Shaun McDonald and John Standeford (who?), a rookie running back, and had 5 different quarterbacks (an NFL record). He is 6'5", 239 pounds, and ran a sub-4.4 at the combine.

I know Buzzman said he didn't want to say it, but I will: Calvin Johnson is the best receiver in football.

I'm done arguing with Detroit fans.In the end Johnson is good but not the best in football.

Farve's my pick to win best qb this year.

Nope,having a worst year than last year,no surprise hes on a different team,but Brees or Warner will win it.
 
I don't disagree that he is having an outstanding year, especially with all the injuries the Saints have faced. But if you look at the past, most MVP's are playoff contenders.
 
That's why I said he shouldn't win it IF they don't make the playoffs. If they do, I'll give it to him easily. If not, I give it to Warner.
 
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