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Enough is enough. Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of all time.

I think he has a good 6-7 left in him. He doesn't get hurt and rarely if ever gets hit. Seeing him go down to the Jets a few times was shocking because it's so rare when someone can get a good shot on him.

He can play at an elite level for 4 more years, then be able to be at least servicable for a few more after that.
 
Only record he isn't breaking is Favre's INT record.

Meh, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility if he plays long enough. Favre's career INT percentage is 3.3% and Peyton's is 2.8% so he's only 0.5% behind Favre now for his career. Peyton gained on him this season by 9 picks (16 to 7).
 
Just putting this out there...

...according to Pro-Football-Reference, who I trust much more, Peyton is only behind Dan Marino in fourth quarter comebacks. Peyton's at 35. Marino's at 37. He's had more 4th Quarter Comebacks than Montana too. I think Peyton will achieve the title of greatest quarterback/football player before his career is over.

Everyone defines "4th Q comeback" differently. It's a highly subjective unofficial statistic.

-Trailing by a point, on the opponents 1 yard line, 3rd Q ends. On the first play of the 4th Q, FB scores on a dive play. QB trips and falls while jogging back to the sideline, gets hurt, never returns to the game. His team goes on to win. This is a "4th Q Comeback" as defined by some sources.

You get the idea. Any QB with a semblence of longevity has a bunch of 4th Q Comebacks if you dig around enough and find a liberal source.
 
Just putting this out there...

...according to Pro-Football-Reference, who I trust much more, Peyton is only behind Dan Marino in fourth quarter comebacks. Peyton's at 35. Marino's at 37. He's had more 4th Quarter Comebacks than Montana too. I think Peyton will achieve the title of greatest quarterback/football player before his career is over.

He already has IMO.
 
Peyton Manning's opinion on 4th qtr comebacks when they asked him at the MVP press conference

- It probably means we didn't play our best in the first three qtrs
 
Everyone defines "4th Q comeback" differently. It's a highly subjective unofficial statistic.

-Trailing by a point, on the opponents 1 yard line, 3rd Q ends. On the first play of the 4th Q, FB scores on a dive play. QB trips and falls while jogging back to the sideline, gets hurt, never returns to the game. His team goes on to win. This is a "4th Q Comeback" as defined by some sources.

You get the idea. Any QB with a semblence of longevity has a bunch of 4th Q Comebacks if you dig around enough and find a liberal source.

Well, Pro-Football-Reference follows this model:

Pro Football Reference said:
Checklist of questions to ask:

Did the team win the game?

- If the answer is no, then move onto the next game.

Did the QB ever have the ball in the 4th quarter or overtime with a tie or deficit of 1--8 pts?

- If the answer is no, then move onto the next game.

Did the winning team ever trail in the 4th quarter?

- If the answer is no, then this cannot be a comeback.

Did the offense produce the winning points or was it a return by the defense/special teams?

- If the answer is yes, then it’s a game-winning drive (and if there was a deficit, a comeback).

- If the answer is no, then the QB/offense does not get credit unless they did something to force a tie or get a lead at some point.

Did the offense produce a tying drive and then watched the defense/special teams score the winning points?

- If the answer is ‘yes’, then it’s a comeback, but not a game-winning drive.

As long as it follows that structure, I'm fine with it. The author of the article and this definition of the stat doesn't count the example you gave or a field goal kicked immediately at the beginning of the third to take the lead/tie as a 4QC.

He already has IMO.

Same here. However, I said that for those who still haven't placed him there.

Peyton Manning's opinion on 4th qtr comebacks when they asked him at the MVP press conference

- It probably means we didn't play our best in the first three qtrs

And that's why he's the best in the game.
 
Honestly, this discussion will end when Manning retires.

He will win at least 2 more Super Bowls when it's all said and done and will most likely hold every record out there, cementing him as the GOAT.

It's just a matter of time. Hopefully he stays healthy. Guy still has 10 years left in him, easy.



this is absolutely pure conjecture. tomorrow has absolutely no guarantees. He may remain a great QB till he retires but too many factors have to be in place for the other stuff to happen. I bet they keep Saturday as a centers coach to train what ever new guy comes along to teach him how to get along with and please Manning. Because his favorite center wont last as long as he does.
 
He's 34? Thought he was 31 for some reason.

Still, he can and will play at an elite level for 7 years.

He is 10x smarter than Favre at the QB position. He gets hit way less. Honestly, I think the guy can play well past 40 if he wants to.
 
Oh don't worry, I will. ;)


Of course you will. Youre too immature to stop doing it. Another reason you are such a childish simpleton : )

"Hey duuude lets click on -groan- every time we see his name".

simple pleasures for simple people, like widdle Woy.


on simple individual QB stats alone. Favre is still number one. And ultimately, there is no - greatest of all time-

every 10 to 50 years someone stands out more than the rest. But things change and time moves on.
But the Manning family has made an incredible legacy !

if we live long enough, could we possibly see these 2 have sons that rival their exploits in the future ? that would trully be something for the history books.

at least we are Talking about men such as Manning and Favre who also seem to posses great character as humans as well as long glorious, entertaining careers for us to witness.

character the likes of which it may take kids like Woy, years to develop : )

but I have hope for the young man. May he live a long and joyous life.

no Woy- I was not being sarcastic
 
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I would say something, but as an athlete I'm not sure I have the social skills to get my point across.

:) well, if your at a major program, my understanding is you have access to countless tutors : )


Dude, believe me. If you have scholarship to a major program, I do envy you.
 
He's 34? Thought he was 31 for some reason.

Still, he can and will play at an elite level for 7 years.

He is 10x smarter than Favre at the QB position. He gets hit way less. Honestly, I think the guy can play well past 40 if he wants to.

If his arm holds up?
 
Of course you will. Youre too immature to stop doing it. Another reason you are such a childish simpleton : )

"Hey duuude lets click on 0n -groan- every time we see his name".

simple pleasures for simple people, like widdle Woy.


on simple individual QB stats alone. Favre is still number one. And ultimately, there is no - greatest of all time-

every 10 to 50 years someone stands out more than the rest. But things change and time moves on.
But the Manning family has made an incredible legacy !

if we live long enough, could we possibly see these 2 have sons that rival their exploits in the future ? that would trully be something for the history books.

at least we are Talking about men such as Manning and Favre who also seem to posses great character as humans as well as long glorious, entertaining careers for us to witness.

character the likes of which it may take kids like Woy, years to develop : )

but I have hope for the young man. May he live a long and joyous life.

no Woy- I was not being sarcastic

I think I speak for everyone when I say, "What is wrong with you?"
 
Nothing is wrong. I am an adult who made an eloquent statement about what really matters and how to perceive it.

I've found that when people continually refer to people (even people older than them) as "son" or "kid" or "child" on an internet message board, it usually turns out that they are pedophiles.

Just sayin'.
 
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