Enough is enough. Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of all time.

[FedEx227]

And are people honestly still blaming Rex Grossman for the Bears losing the Super Bowl?

How about the defense that led Dominic Rhodes and Joseph Addai run down their throats the entire night. They destroyed the middle of the Bears defense including "Lord" Urlacher.

 

[bucky]

The pick sealed the loss. The pick didn't cause the loss.

Same with Brett's picks on three different teams. I wouldn't say they were the only cause for GB's, NY's or Minny's playoff losses. A lot of things caused the teams to lose. But Brett's picks sealed those loses.

Manning, fun and amazing to watch. He's not Goat yet, but he could have a lot of career left in him.

Brett, fun and amazing to watch, especially for us GB fans, but he's not GOAT. He's not even the GOAT of GB QB's.

 

[Bear Pand]

But look at the garbage heap he dragged to the big game the other 3 times. And Edge James' numbers compare pretty nicely with TDs and Manning didn't come home with any rings during that run.

Edge's postseason numbers: 13 games 852 yards, 3.91 Y/A 6 TDs

Terrell Davis' postseason numbers: 8 games 1104 yards, 5.59 Y/A 12 TDs

Maybe Edge has low numbers because of Peyton not giving him the ball enough or whatever, but Terrell Davis is a much better postseason weapon than Manning has had at any point in his career.

 

[killgod]

:doorrofl:

 

[FedEx227]

:jonesy:

You have fun with George Blanda... I'll take Peyton.

 

[Dan The Man]

MrBill, you are about 50 years old, yes?

The fact that you have a man-crush on a quarterback who joined your rival team, and will openly root against your squad because of that is pathetic.

Kick rocks you old fuck.

 

[Archer]

PM's the best field general in the NFL, with Brady Brees and Favre CLOSE behind. He sure got showed up in the Super Bowl...what a great game!

But there's no way in hell he's the best ever. I'd take Elway, Montana, Moon, and Blanda over Manning any day.

:confused2:

 

[bucky]

But there's no way in hell he's the best ever. I'd take Elway, Montana, Moon, and Blanda over Manning any day.

Moon? Blanda?

How about Johnny Unitas?

 

[FedEx227]

:jonesy:

George Blanda.... again... good luck with that chief.

 

[mgoblue2290]

I'd say Manning is top 3 all time. I still have Montana as my number 1 though. Peyton's only 33 and has at least 4-5 years of good football left in him. There is still time for him to cement himself as the greatest, but he hasn't done it yet.

 

[FedEx227]

The pick sealed the loss. The pick didn't cause the loss.

Exactly.

Football fans have a tough time realizing these simple things and instead attach small fragmented events and extrapolate them to the whole game.

Manning's pick of course hurt them, it sealed the loss for sure... it didn't lose the game. They weren't guaranteed a score. It didn't cause Drew Brees to pass all across the field. It didn't cause the Saints to run a well designed, well constructed onside kick out of the halftime.

 

[bucky]

:jonesy:

George Blanda.... again... good luck with that chief.

Blanda and Moon kinda rocked me a little too. I just don't get it either. Blanda was a great HOF player, but over manning at QB? I don't get it.

 

[Archer]

:facepalm: It's going to be a longgggggggg off-season

 

[FedEx227]

I'd say Manning is top 3 all time. I still have Montana as my number 1 though. Peyton's only 33 and has at least 4-5 years of good football left in him. There is still time for him to cement himself as the greatest, but he hasn't done it yet.

No, I'm a huge Peyton fan and I'm more than willing to let the guy have his 4-6 more years. He's definitely in the top 5 in my mind right now and easily projects to be the GOAT if he continues at his current pace.

 

[FedEx227]

Blanda and Moon kinda rocked me a little too. I just don't get it either. Blanda was a great HOF player, but over manning at QB? I don't get it.

Yeah, thats... just....no. No. No. Different eras definitely but...no...no.

 

[MrBill]

MrBill, you are about 50 years old, yes?

The fact that you have a man-crush on a quarterback who joined your rival team, and will openly root against your squad because of that is pathetic.

Kick rocks you old fuck.

It's more like 40...and you are going to have to dig deeper into your teenage back of tricks if you think digs against my age or favorite player are going to get under my skin little one.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Remember that he shit the bed though . And he would have obviously done the same v Chicago if they didn't have Rex Grossman

The things you learn surfing VSN

lol.. Oh my god.

I said he's not the greatest ever. Not a terrible QB. That's not a knock at all on Peyton, just that this thread is about him being the Best QB to ever play the game and after tonight and his previous performance in Super Bowl XLI - He's clearly not the greatest QB ever.

He's Top 5, arguably Top 3.. not the best. That AGAIN is not a knock on Peyton (or Favre who this fits almost identically to Peyton) who is an amazing QB.. but Montana is still better.. that's the point I was trying to convey

 

[Hasselbeck]

I'd say Manning is top 3 all time. I still have Montana as my number 1 though. Peyton's only 33 and has at least 4-5 years of good football left in him. There is still time for him to cement himself as the greatest, but he hasn't done it yet.

Said better than anything else in this thread.

Dig this thing up again in 4 or 5 years. Move on.

 

[Hasselbeck]

No, I'm a huge Peyton fan and I'm more than willing to let the guy have his 4-6 more years. He's definitely in the top 5 in my mind right now and easily projects to be the GOAT if he continues at his current pace.

What pace is that? All the records and one ring?

You know who has that now?

 

[FedEx227]

lol.. Oh my god.

I said he's not the greatest ever. Not a terrible QB. That's not a knock at all on Peyton, just that this thread is about him being the Best QB to ever play the game and after tonight and his previous performance in Super Bowl XLI - He's clearly not the greatest QB ever.

He's Top 5, arguably Top 3.. not the best. That AGAIN is not a knock on Peyton (or Favre who this fits almost identically to Peyton) who is an amazing QB.. but Montana is still better.. that's the point I was trying to convey

What?

He puts up a pretty damn good performance (outside of the late pick) has his defense line shit the bed and get no pressure negating the effectiveness of a Cover-2 defense, the Saints run a perfectly designed onside kick.

What did tonight prove?

Edit: Nevermind... I kinda see your bigger point and in a way agree.