Enough is enough. Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of all time.

[Maynard]

If your argument against Manning is big games, go for it, but you absolutely can not bring up Elway. Elway was pretty awful in three out of five Super Bowls, and if you want to rip Manning for getting blown out tonight, Elway was blown out in one of the two Super Bowls where he played decent.

if your argument is for manning then you cant ignore the big games.

 

[Youk]

if your argument is for manning then you cant ignore the big games.

I think you're missing the point....ah fuck it. It's hopeless. This has to be a joke, right?

 

[JimLeavy59]

if your argument is for manning then you cant ignore the big games.

But you can't throw out his entire body of work as well. Stop living in this ESPN culture bro.

 

[Liquidrob]

Saying someone isnt the greatest doesn't mean he sucks

Stop being a bunch a goofs

 

[Maynard]

But you can't throw out his entire body of work as well. Stop living in this ESPN culture bro.

his entire body of work is not enough to make him the goat. you want to give him the title but you only want to base it on his regular seasons and his stats.

his playoff record and failure in the big games must also be taken into account. you guys are just disregarding it like that doesnt matter

he is a great QB, but not the greatest of all time

 

[Youk]

his entire body of work is not enough to make him the goat. you want to give him the title but you only want to base it on his regular seasons and his stats.

his playoff record and failure in the big games must also be taken into account. you guys are just disregarding it like that doesnt matter

he is a great QB, but not the greatest of all time

But wait

dont talk about this nonsense unless you post facts to support it

 

[Maynard]

if you need me to post some info to support mannings post season failure then you are a retard and know less than rams about football

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Prediction: 15 posts until Maynard challenges Youk to a game of flag football, and then wimps out on it

 

[JimLeavy59]

if you need me to post some info to support mannings post season failure then you are a retard and know less than rams about football

:natsplayoffs:

 

[Maynard]

you want some cheap thanks now thomas? i guess the no trolling rules have been lifted?

 

[ThomasTomasz]

you want some cheap thanks now thomas? i guess the no trolling rules have been lifted?

Prove me wrong then

 

[Maynard]

prove what wrong?

 

[Youk]

if you need me to post some info to support mannings post season failure then you are a retard and know less than rams about football

But....you said don't talk about this nonsense without posting facts. I don't see you posting any facts.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

prove what wrong?

If you need me to post what I meant, then you are a retard and know less than rams /troll :notbad:

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

if your argument is for manning then you cant ignore the big games.

Define "big game".

400 yards, 80% completions, 2 TD's, no picks two weeks ago in the AFC Championship. Is that a "big game"?

Seems like you're the one ignoring "big games" if you say he always chokes. He's played well in many big games. You don't play in 23 postseason games by playing badly in "big games".

Of course, what you mean to say, is Super Bowls. Your entire stance is based on Super Bowls. If that's the kind of analysis you like to do, ok. To me that's being lazy and surface level.

Nothing he did tonight was going to change my mind on Manning. He's 37 and is what he is. Bad game, good game, great game. He's the best regular season QB ever. He's won a SB and played in two others. Not the best postseason QB, not even close really, but he's been good enough that combined with his overall play, to me that makes him the best ever.

I'd rather take my chances overrating 240 games than 23, or 3, or 2. The 240 games tell me all I need to know, the three Super Bowls simply close the case for me.

 

[dave]

Peyton Manning didn't have a great game, to be sure, but his status as a top-3 NFL QB of all time cannot be questioned. Hell, the man threw 55 TD passes at age 37 after four bloody neck surgeries! And he's not the first QB to have a bad game against the Seattle Seahawks. Do I consider him the closer Joe Montana was? No. Did he ever have the O-Lines Joe had? No. Both his INTs tonight were not entirely his fault. I don't think Manning is the greatest of all time because he plays in a relaxed era for QBs and just doesn't have Montana's unparalleled playoff success. But he has nothing to apologize for either.

 

[Maynard]

Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of all time.

Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of all time.

Define "big game".

400 yards, 80% completions, 2 TD's, no picks two weeks ago in the AFC Championship. Is that a "big game"?

Seems like you're the one ignoring "big games" if you say he always chokes. He's played well in many big games. You don't play in 23 postseason games by playing badly in "big games".

Of course, what you mean to say, is Super Bowls. Your entire stance is based on Super Bowls. If that's the kind of analysis you like to do, ok. To me that's being lazy and surface level.

Nothing he did tonight was going to change my mind on Manning. He's 37 and is what he is. Bad game, good game, great game. He's the best regular season QB ever. He's won a SB and played in two others. Not the best postseason QB, not even close really, but he's been good enough that combined with his overall play, to me that makes him the best.

I'd rather take my chances overrating 240 games than 23, or 3, or 2. The 240 games tell me all I need to know, the three Super Bowls simply close the case for me.

your entire position has been

Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of all time.

nice to know you finally see it my way.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

And if you think I place no value on the Super Bowl, you are wrong.

This thread would not exist had he not won a SB. He's been to two more since I made it, won two more MVP's, and had the greatest single season for a QB in NFL history. He's done nothing but add to the resume.

I value the Super Bowl, I just don't let it overpower everything else like a tidal wave. That's silly, and honestly it's the kind of analysis that needs to go away is sports debate.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

your entire position has been


nice to know you finally see it my way.

Serious question. I swear i'm not trolling.

Do you have any learning or mental disabilities?

 

[dave]

Serious question. I swear i'm not trolling.

Do you have any learning or mental disabilities?

I'm not sure if that's better than the line I usually get:

Serious question. I swear i'm not trolling.

Are you drinking again, Dave?