Flaw in Cowboys Stadium

[Prodigal Son]

They're not gonna "make" him do jack shit. He followed their regulations on it and had McBriar test it out earlier in the process. Guess it wasn't thorough enough, but if it follows the specs the NFL told him, there's really nothing they can do about it.


Apparently the board is to be raised for a U2 concert next month (depending on who you believe). Don't know why it wasn't raised to begin with, but whatever.

Is it the same McBriar who plays punter for the Cowboys? Because he doesn't seem to remember that ever happening.

 

[Helicopter]

You Cowboy homers are missing the point. Its not the fact that he may have been trying to hit the Jerrytron, its the fact that its possible to hit the Jerrytron. Whether he tried to hit it or not, it can be hit and should be raised.

Hell, the Titans punters don't even kick in their practice bubble here in Nashville and the roof of it is only about 10 feet closer to the field than that monstrosity of a scoreboard.

I bet 90% of the people who go to Cowboys games watch 90% of the game on that screen rather than on the field. The 4 people I talked to that were in attendance said they did.

 

[dave]

I was at the game. Cowboys Stadium is God's new home.

God doesn't always hit homeruns:

On topic: I hate the Cowboys, but I think the scoreboard is very cool. Jones will eventually raise it. No biggie.

 

[Rayman]

Is it the same McBriar who plays punter for the Cowboys? Because he doesn't seem to remember that ever happening.

They were measuring his punt heights as far back as 2007. And again, this thing has gone through tons of regulations by contractors, the Cowboys and the NFL.

The more it comes out, the more I believe that the Titans punter hit it purposely. McBriar never even came close to it, and he has one of the stronger legs in the league. He also said the for him to hit it, "it would have to be a really bad punt".

He did acknowledge that you can hit it if you're trying to.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Im surprised this didnt get posted sooner. During the game and much after it there was alot of talk.


A. The Titans punter was clearly trying to aim for it in practice and in game.
B. The screen is 10 feet higher than regulation calls for.
C. It was signed off by the NFL.

Nice of the article and other 'net based ones to pretty much omit what every NFL show said numerous times.

Supposedly it can be adjusted but noone has an answer to how much. NFL signed off and didnt prepare for a scenario where this may happen.

btw original stadium cost 37 mill...this one 1.2 billion ???
What the fuck kind of taxes are there on cement nowadays ??

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

You Cowboy homers are missing the point. Its not the fact that he may have been trying to hit the Jerrytron, its the fact that its possible to hit the Jerrytron. Whether he tried to hit it or not, it can be hit and should be raised.

Bottom line.

Move the fuckin thing, and if it cant be moved, remove it.

Why must Cowboy fans defend all things Cowboys, to the death? It's crystal clear that punts can hit the stupid thing, so it needs to be gone. Why would anyone argue against this?

 

[Rayman]

Bottom line.

Move the fuckin thing, and if it cant be moved, remove it.

Why must Cowboy fans defend all things Cowboys, to the death? It's crystal clear that punts can hit the stupid thing, so it needs to be gone. Why would anyone argue against this?

A) Because the team is constantly being attacked like they're the spawn of Satan.

B) Because they did nothing wrong here. Jerrah asked the NFL how high he should have it. They said it needed to be at least 80 feet. He made it 90 for good measure.

And for the record, the reason he won't raise the board is because if it's any higher, certain tiers of the stadium would not be able to see it adequately. He paid good money for it, and he wants the most bang for his buck. Good for him. The stadium is magnificent and all, but the highlight for ol' JJ was this scoreboard and there's no way in hell the NFL is gonna make him move or remove it. And honestly, I'd love to see Goodell try. This isn't Q-Bert Jones or Michael Vick he'd be dealing with.

Go for it, Mr. Goodell. Make Dallas raise the video-board…

…and while you’re at it, please remove the cameras that hover on wires over the field of play, or raise them to the height of the video-board…

…and while you’re at it, please stop stadiums from pumping in artificial crowd noise into their stadiums to give their team a competitive advantage…

…and while you’re at it, please stop teams like the Giants from opening and closing their end-zone doors, just to manipulate the air pressure as a means for assisting the distance-ability of field-goal kicks and kickoffs for their team and hampering it for opponents…

…and while you’re at it, please make all stadiums that use artificial turf use the same turf and padding so that we can avoid unfair advantages like the Eagles historically enjoyed by forcing opponents to play on concrete slab that they had the luxury of getting use to by practicing readily on it…

…and while you’re at it, please make all stadiums that use natural grass meet a minimum quality standard so that teams like the Bears can no longer enjoy an unfair advantage by playing on that loose green mud they call grass, that they are use to via practicing on it, but openness are not and slip and slide all over it…

…and while you’re at it, please require teams that play on baseball fields to sod the dirt portions so that an unfair advantage is no longer enjoyed by the home teams, and when they sod, please have inspectors ensure that the newly planted grass meets the minimum grass-quality standards in place (see above)…

…and while you’re at it, please take officials off the field as they get in the way of games. After all with today’s video technology they can easily do their jobs from the booth. Hey, if video technology is the clear determinant for instant replay, then why not every play…?

…and while you’re at it, please make all non-domed stadiums re-pith their fields so that rain drainage no longer unevenly drains more so towards the opposing team’s sidelines. This way home teams will no longer be able to create unfair disadvantages for opponents, by creating uneven damp conditions that slows their substitutions in and out of every play and hampers teams’ overall ability to manage a game from the sidelines…

…and while you’re at it, please have every coach, manager and player, past and present in the NFL, provide you feedback about problems they have encountered in every stadium that they have ever played in that they consider to provide the opposing home team an unfair advantage, and please address every single one of those problems…

…and finally, while you’re at it, please be sure that all of the problems mentioned above get addressed and resolved first, because after all, they have ALL been stadium-related problems that affect game outcomes in favor of the home team; and if we wish to be fair as a league about not having variable stadium conditions provide unfair advantages for home teams, then let’s be fair and address these problems on a first-come-first-serve basis…

So in closing, Mr. Goodell, please DO make Dallas raise the video-board in Cowboys Stadium, but not until all of these other stadium problems around the league have been resolved.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

The NFL has had those cameras hovering over the field for years, with no issue.

A punt hit Jerry's stupid tv the FIRST FUCKING GAME in the stadium.

The rest of your post is invalid, crybaby bullshit that has no relevence to this topic. This isnt about a competitive advantage, its about an oversized, intrusive, unnessacery TV getting in the way.

It's a fucking tv screen. Why is it so important to you? We get it, your stadium is super awesome, how bout dem Cowboys!!. But the dumb tv is clearly an issue, raise it or get rid of it.

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

I think it's funny to hear people bring up the skycam just because it's on a wire at the same height as the monitor.

The skycam travels at 30 to 50 mph depending on HiRES or loRES. The unit is 36 inches tall, and has a computer automated obstacle avoidance to take itself out of the way in an instant. I mean it's not like the skycam is a giant immobile monitor right in the center of the action where most punts are kicked.

 

[Prodigal Son]

He's gonna move it for the U2 concert. But is saying that the reason why they won't raise it for the cowboy games is because it wouldn't work.

 

[steeljake]

the only thing wrong with the cowboys new stadium is that the cowboys play there. no fans are bigger homers than cowboy fans, they can even justify why the team hasnt won a playoff game since 1996. dammit man i fucking hate dallas.

 

[Senser81]

Go for it, Mr. Goodell. Make Dallas raise the video-board…

…and while you’re at it, please remove the cameras that hover on wires over the field of play, or raise them to the height of the video-board…

I don't remember a punter hitting the wires.

…and while you’re at it, please stop stadiums from pumping in artificial crowd noise into their stadiums to give their team a competitive advantage…

I don't remember a punt being deflected by artificial noise.

…and while you’re at it, please stop teams like the Giants from opening and closing their end-zone doors, just to manipulate the air pressure as a means for assisting the distance-ability of field-goal kicks and kickoffs for their team and hampering it for opponents…

I don't remember a punt being blocked by the end-zone doors.

…and while you’re at it, please make all stadiums that use artificial turf use the same turf and padding so that we can avoid unfair advantages like the Eagles historically enjoyed by forcing opponents to play on concrete slab that they had the luxury of getting use to by practicing readily on it…

I don't remember a punter having his punt blocked by the artificial turf.

…and while you’re at it, please take officials off the field as they get in the way of games. After all with today’s video technology they can easily do their jobs from the booth. Hey, if video technology is the clear determinant for instant replay, then why not every play…?

I don't remember a punt being blocked by an official...at least in real life. It has happened to me in NCAA 07.

…and while you’re at it, please make all non-domed stadiums re-pith their fields so that rain drainage no longer unevenly drains more so towards the opposing team’s sidelines. This way home teams will no longer be able to create unfair disadvantages for opponents, by creating uneven damp conditions that slows their substitutions in and out of every play and hampers teams’ overall ability to manage a game from the sidelines…

I don't remember a punt being blocked by the drainage system.

…and while you’re at it, please have every coach, manager and player, past and present in the NFL, provide you feedback about problems they have encountered in every stadium that they have ever played in that they consider to provide the opposing home team an unfair advantage, and please address every single one of those problems…

I don't remember a punt being blocked by 'negative feedback'.

 

[jms493]

Get used to the Cowboy bashing...........I am a Yankee fan and more people than ever hate the yankees with every last cell in their body. Do I care?? Not one bit. I love em........everyone else can just bitch about them........have fun!

Oh yeah.....raise the TV.....otherwise it will become an issue.

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

I don't remember a punter hitting the wires.



I don't remember a punt being deflected by artificial noise.



I don't remember a punt being blocked by the end-zone doors.



I don't remember a punter having his punt blocked by the artificial turf.



I don't remember a punt being blocked by an official...at least in real life. It has happened to me in NCAA 07.



I don't remember a punt being blocked by the drainage system.



I don't remember a punt being blocked by 'negative feedback'.

I do remember a playoff game when the ball literally stuck into the soggy turf at heinz field like a javalin. That actually kinda funny.

 

[DomePatrol]

jerry jones is somthing else i swear.

 

[Rayman]

The NFL has had those cameras hovering over the field for years, with no issue.

A punt hit Jerry's stupid tv the FIRST FUCKING GAME in the stadium.

The rest of your post is invalid, crybaby bullshit that has no relevence to this topic. This isnt about a competitive advantage, its about an oversized, intrusive, unnessacery TV getting in the way.

It's a fucking tv screen. Why is it so important to you? We get it, your stadium is super awesome, how bout dem Cowboys!!. But the dumb tv is clearly an issue, raise it or get rid of it.

Don't have an issue with moving it at all, actually. Nor do I believe any of the stuff I posted should be changed. Was just using it as an example.

But ol' Jethro does have an issue with moving it. And at the end of the day, that's all that matters.

There's nothing the league can do about it. If the fact that a punter can hit the scoreboard if he's aiming for it makes them so butthurt, they're just gonna have to make a new rule about that kind of thing.

I already know our punter's never gonna hit it.

 

[Woy]

I do remember a playoff game when the ball literally stuck into the soggy turf at heinz field like a javalin. That actually kinda funny.

It wasn't a playoff game, it was on Monday Night Football against the Dolphins.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

If it needs to be moved it should. No team should be able to obstruct something on field by stadium design. Its like having a jacuzzi in the endzone and asking guys to play around it.

I do have a problem with the NFL not knowing how much it should be moved , them signing off on it to begin with , and not speaking about a contingency plan while it was being built/setup. That and people trying to blame Jerry for this ??

If announcers , players , and fans at home were wondering about the height before the stadium was opened how did the NFL not anticipate this ?

I will say again it was aimed at. But frankly what punter in there right mind wouldnt want to aim there kick at that fuckin thing ? If I was an opposing punter Id dream of hitting it so hard it knocks out reception.

 

[mgoblue2290]

A) Because the team is constantly being attacked like they're the spawn of Satan.

B) Because they did nothing wrong here. Jerrah asked the NFL how high he should have it. They said it needed to be at least 80 feet. He made it 90 for good measure.

And for the record, the reason he won't raise the board is because if it's any higher, certain tiers of the stadium would not be able to see it adequately. He paid good money for it, and he wants the most bang for his buck. Good for him. The stadium is magnificent and all, but the highlight for ol' JJ was this scoreboard and there's no way in hell the NFL is gonna make him move or remove it. And honestly, I'd love to see Goodell try. This isn't Q-Bert Jones or Michael Vick he'd be dealing with.

Go for it, Mr. Goodell. Make Dallas raise the video-board…

…and while you’re at it, please remove the cameras that hover on wires over the field of play, or raise them to the height of the video-board…

…and while you’re at it, please stop stadiums from pumping in artificial crowd noise into their stadiums to give their team a competitive advantage…

…and while you’re at it, please stop teams like the Giants from opening and closing their end-zone doors, just to manipulate the air pressure as a means for assisting the distance-ability of field-goal kicks and kickoffs for their team and hampering it for opponents…

…and while you’re at it, please make all stadiums that use artificial turf use the same turf and padding so that we can avoid unfair advantages like the Eagles historically enjoyed by forcing opponents to play on concrete slab that they had the luxury of getting use to by practicing readily on it…

…and while you’re at it, please make all stadiums that use natural grass meet a minimum quality standard so that teams like the Bears can no longer enjoy an unfair advantage by playing on that loose green mud they call grass, that they are use to via practicing on it, but openness are not and slip and slide all over it…

…and while you’re at it, please require teams that play on baseball fields to sod the dirt portions so that an unfair advantage is no longer enjoyed by the home teams, and when they sod, please have inspectors ensure that the newly planted grass meets the minimum grass-quality standards in place (see above)…

…and while you’re at it, please take officials off the field as they get in the way of games. After all with today’s video technology they can easily do their jobs from the booth. Hey, if video technology is the clear determinant for instant replay, then why not every play…?

…and while you’re at it, please make all non-domed stadiums re-pith their fields so that rain drainage no longer unevenly drains more so towards the opposing team’s sidelines. This way home teams will no longer be able to create unfair disadvantages for opponents, by creating uneven damp conditions that slows their substitutions in and out of every play and hampers teams’ overall ability to manage a game from the sidelines…

…and while you’re at it, please have every coach, manager and player, past and present in the NFL, provide you feedback about problems they have encountered in every stadium that they have ever played in that they consider to provide the opposing home team an unfair advantage, and please address every single one of those problems…

…and finally, while you’re at it, please be sure that all of the problems mentioned above get addressed and resolved first, because after all, they have ALL been stadium-related problems that affect game outcomes in favor of the home team; and if we wish to be fair as a league about not having variable stadium conditions provide unfair advantages for home teams, then let’s be fair and address these problems on a first-come-first-serve basis…

So in closing, Mr. Goodell, please DO make Dallas raise the video-board in Cowboys Stadium, but not until all of these other stadium problems around the league have been resolved.

Damn, you really are a douchebag, aren't you?

This post, is just one more reason for hating the Cowboys. I mean seriously Rayman, you were one Cowboy fan I could respect, but after this bullshit, go fuck yourself. This is classic Cowboy fan douchebaggery at its finest.

 

[Senser81]

Damn, you really are a douchebag, aren't you?

This post, is just one more reason for hating the Cowboys. I mean seriously Rayman, you were one Cowboy fan I could respect, but after this bullshit, go fuck yourself. This is classic Cowboy fan douchebaggery at its finest.

Co-sign. I can understand someone complaining about a bad refereeing decision that costs their team the game or something like that...but Rayman's post was beyond belief. I don't even understand who he's bitching at...your scoreboard is too low, fix it, end of story. Even if the Giants close their end zone doors, your scoreboard will still be too fucking low.

Sheesh.

Bitchface.