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Georgetown & St John's pushing to dissolve Big East

It must suck to be a fan or alumni of schools like Memphis, Temple, UCONN, etc where whether they refuse to accept it or not, they will never be football powers, and their traditionally strong basketball programs are constantly being screwed by the lure of football dollars and the obsessive chase for that money.

The Big East really needs to just give up the name and rebrand. It has no value in football anymore. Let the hoops schools you kicked around for the last decade have it, and move on.
 
Where we're at:

-Catholic 7 can NOT dissolve the league. They would need at least two football votes to dissolve. They can, however, vote to split, and that is the current plan.

-Georgetown got cold feet, but as of 1am eastern, jumped back on board and the split is now considered a formality.

-Since the Catholic 7 are leaving as a group, they do not have to pay exit fees to the Big East. HOWEVER, this would also require a 27 month notice. The Catholic 7 are expected to offer some sort of financial compensation in order to be able to split immediately and begin play in their new league next season.

-The Catholic 7 would retain their auto NCAA tournament bid, and also retain their NCAA tournament payoff units earned as Big East members.

-It is unknown who will get the Big East name & MSG tournament contract. The Catholic 7 includes four founding Big East members (Georgetown, St Johns, Providence, Seton Hall), while the Big East only has one (UCONN). This could be a factor if legal push comes to legal shove.

-Sources say MSG will likely pull out of their deal with the Big East if the basketball teams leave anyway. This would open the door for the new Catholic 7 league or another league to secure the prime MSG deal.

-Butler & Xavier have agreed to join the new league. St Louis, Dayton, Creighton, VCU, George Mason, St Joe's, UMass, LaSalle, Davidson, Gonzaga, St Mary's, and even BYU, San Diego St, New Mexico have all been linked to rumors to varying degrees of likelihood, from very likely (VCU, Dayton, St Louis) to longshots (any school with FBS football).

-Fuck football. It's about time the foot went down on this bullshit. To make this baby a complete sweep, here's hoping the Catholic 7 get the name & tournament, and send the ex-Big East into the football & basketball irrelevance that they deserve.
 
I think its really funny that the Journal Sentinel is doing some actual reporting on this since normally their day-to-day Marquette coverage is awful.


Overall though this is pretty much the best possible situation in my eyes for Marquette, forming an all-basketball mini-super league was a pipe dream when the first group left for the ACC and things started to go downhill. It seems like the "Catholic 7" (which is an awesome fucking moniker by the way that is going to help forge some great rivalries) have a ton of chips in their corner and have pulled this off pretty unbelievably cleanly. I feel bad for UConn and Cincy but I'm sure they'll latch on somewhere soon.

And all thanks to fucking Tulane, Marquette's AD was having none of that RPI-ruining Green Wave shit.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
-Butler & Xavier have agreed to join the new league. St Louis, Dayton, Creighton, VCU, George Mason, St Joe's, UMass, LaSalle, Davidson, Gonzaga, St Mary's, and even BYU, San Diego St, New Mexico have all been linked to rumors to varying degrees of likelihood, from very likely (VCU, Dayton, St Louis) to longshots (any school with FBS football).
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If the "Catholic 7" wants to keep with their roots the only teams they should allowed in should be teams from the North East. Marquette, Butler, Xavier, Davidson, Gonzaga, St Mary's, BYU, San Diego St, New Mexico? GTFO!! I am obviously East Coast bias.
 
I'd love for George Mason to join them. I feel like they could be competitive in that conference.

I would also like to see VCU or Richmond get an invite. If Butler joins I feel VCU will follow them in a heartbeat
 
UCONN & Cincinnati want in. They think they can cut football only deals with other leagues. I don't like that idea. If you want to play football, go play football with other football schools. The purpose of this is to get away from football. But these two schools are shitting their pants now because old Big East is now a shitbag hoops league.

Gonzaga wants in and has made calls.
 
Warner, you think Umass has a real shot at joining? Basketball program is improving I believe, and they're a new FBS-football school, with no real program.
 
Yawkey Way said:
Warner, you think Umass has a real shot at joining? Basketball program is improving I believe, and they're a new FBS-football school, with no real program.
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There was also a report out that last week that they may want to move back down to FCS.
 
NAHSTE said:
There was also a report out that last week that they may want to move back down to FCS.
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Yawkey Way said:
Warner, you think Umass has a real shot at joining? Basketball program is improving I believe, and they're a new FBS-football school, with no real program.
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NAHSTE said:
There was also a report out that last week that they may want to move back down to FCS.
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Yeah, it all depends how the football thing shakes out. The schools who have FBS football who have shown interest have been meet with lukewarm response because these guys don't want to go down that road again.

For now, the goal is schools who clearly put basketball first. And that means no FBS football.

They are also looking at natural on court & recruiting rivals. Nova is pushing for LaSalle & St Joes, Georgetown is pushing for VCU, and now im hearing Providence wants Rhode Island considered.
 
NAHSTE said:
There was also a report out that last week that they may want to move back down to FCS.
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That was a misleading report. Umass FACULTY wants them to move back down to FCS. Has nothing to do with administration or athletic officials, it's essentially just professors. I really don't know why they want this to happen, but it's definitely bizarre.
 
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...-working-towards-lucrative-tv-deal-basketball

FOX Sports with $500M deal on the table for the new league, which is waaaaay more per school than the C7 would have gotten on the Big East sinking football ship. A deal of this size might even convince the schools to pay the exit fees so they can start play next season.

What we have here, is FOX & NBC bidding against each other to acquire a potential hot property for their new cable sports networks. This is exactly how I figured it would play out. The timing couldn't be better for these schools to have made this move.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...-working-towards-lucrative-tv-deal-basketball

FOX Sports with $500M deal on the table for the new league, which is waaaaay more per school than the C7 would have gotten on the Big East sinking football ship. A deal of this size might even convince the schools to pay the exit fees so they can start play next season.

What we have here, is FOX & NBC bidding against each other to acquire a potential hot property for their new cable sports networks. This is exactly how I figured it would play out. The timing couldn't be better for these schools to have made this move.
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I like NBC Sports, they just need some programming. They do a solid jerb on live events and the channel is already located in a convenient spot on my DTV dial, I can easily work it into my 206-213 rotaish, so I really hope this new marquee hoops conference lands there.
 
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