Hanley Ramirez Traded to Dodgers

[Youk]

"@jonmorosi: BLOCKBUSTER: Hanley Ramirez & Randy Choate to #Dodgers, Nathan Eovaldi & Scott McGough to #Marlins, sources tell @Ken_Rosenthal and me."

Been confirmed a few other times on twitter, as well as a comment from Jeffrey Loria

"@Ken_Rosenthal: Loria on Hanley: "It's no secret I love the kid. He needs to have a fresh beginning, a new beginning. This is a very painful moment for me. But we had to do something." #Marlins #Dodgers"

 

[BiggaAdams]

Dodgers fuckin BALLIN!

 

[Golden Taters]

First they ditched the teal and now this? Marlins were my favorite team (outside Mariners) to watch for years, didn't want to see Hanley get traded.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Hanley is a cancer.

But, the Marlins got shit for him. Nate Eovaldi? Trash.

 

[NAHSTE]

Terrible return for Miami.

And Choate is a sneaky pick-up for the Dodgers.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Think about what they could have gotten for Hanley in 2010 compared to today.

The .720-ish OPS he's put up over the last two years will not cut it at a corner IF spot for most teams, and his defense hasn't been good either.

He wasn't a good defensive SS before he was fat, so he will be worse now, even though the OPS will play better there.

Peter Gammons was saying that a scout told him that Hanley is essentially a really expensive utility player at this point. I wonder if he can play LF.

 

[Mogriffjr]

lol @ marlins

 

[Goober]

So the Dodgers are all of a sudden rich, and they decide to sign Andre Ethier long term, and bring on Hanley Ramirez, instead of an actual good player? :yao: I'm just glad the Marlins took Eovaldi, so I don't have to worry about Melvin trading for him.

 

[Mogriffjr]

Dodgers picked up Hanley's contract, hence the not so great return in talent for Miami...

 

[FirstTimer]

Dodgers picked up Hanley's contract, hence the not so great return in talent for Miami...

Makes sense.

For a second I thought manchild had purchased the Mariners.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Seems like very little return. How this guys value diminished THAT greatly?

 

[EmpireWF]

Seems like very little return. How this guys value diminished THAT greatly?

His average WAR for the first 4 seasons of his career as a starter = 5.6
His average WAR for the last 3 seasons = 1

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Damn, I was hoping the Orioles would go for Ramirez. Dude definitely needs a fresh start, and I would've taken the risk on it. My guess was the Orioles didn't plan on taking as much on the deal as the Dodgers, and somehow I don't think LA is done making moves.

 

[Villain]

Awesome trade! I'm so stoked.

:dance3:

Colletti really had a chance to fuck up this one and I think he made the right call. Awesome!

 

[EmpireWF]

Awesome trade! I'm so stoked.

:dance3:

Congratulations, your team totally fleeced the Marlins on this one. Even though Ramirez has had a terrible year, you need to get more than Eovaldi for the guy, even if the other team is taking on both his and Choate's salary in full. If I'm a Miami fan down there, I'm fucking pissed (assuming they used public money to help pay for the stadium).

 

[Villain]

Choate has been he best lefty-on-lefty reliever since 2009, and our lefty bullpen guy (Scott Elbert) has been better against righties than lefties. Hanley is on the right side of 30 and he's a huge offensive upgrade over what we have now at short-stop and third - even if he doesn't return to previous glory. I was afraid we'd get a bum like Aramis Ramirez.

Eovaldi is a decent starter asked to do a lot as a 22-year-old, so it remains to be seen how good he can be (I think his best years will be from the bullpen). I've always liked Eovaldi but we really needed that offensive upgrade.

With Doyer-tinted-glasses I can look at this and hope that the change of scenery energizes Hanley. The Dodgers clubhouse has become incredibly positive since Mattingly took over, and now with the McCourts gone and Magic Johnson being a cheerleader - it'll be hard for Hanley to act like a shithead. Matt Kemp has become a phenomenal clubhouse leader - especially since he used to be a moron getting picked on by Nomar and Jeff Kent.

 

[Glenbino]

I thought they would take a run at David Wright in FA..

A big upgrade over Uribe and Herrera for sure but I don't like the trajectory that Hanley's career is heading and he's still due a lot of money IIRC.

And I think a few of you are sleeping on Eaovaldi. He's a quality pitcher and throws hard enough that he could at they very least be a good set up guy in the future.

I plead ignorance on the other two players involved.

 

[Villain]

Jon MorosiVerified ‏@jonmorosi

I'm told Hanley Ramirez is very excited to join the #Dodgers. They are getting a happy player.

:dance2:

joe capozzi ‏@joecapMARLINS

As he left #Marlins Park, Hanley Ramirez said he is in starting lineup today for #dodgers

 

[FirstTimer]

Hanley keeps dual position eligibility for next year in fantasy baseball now!

:yeah:

 

[FirstTimer]

Think about what they could have gotten for Hanley in 2010 compared to today.

The .720-ish OPS he's put up over the last two years will not cut it at a corner IF spot for most teams, and his defense hasn't been good either.

He wasn't a good defensive SS before he was fat, so he will be worse now, even though the OPS will play better there.

Peter Gammons was saying that a scout told him that Hanley is essentially a really expensive utility player at this point. I wonder if he can play LF.

I'm not sure I completely agree with that. He ranks 12th in the MLB in OPS for 3rd basemen. Barely behind Brett Lawrie. At SS his OPS would be tied for 6th in the majors at the position.

Obviously his last two seasons have been underwhelming relative to his previous career norms but he's still an upper half 3rd baseman and a top third SS offensively even this season.

I think the "utility player" comment is off base.