Hanley Ramirez Traded to Dodgers

[stevsta]

there was a lot of talk about the marlins and the trade options we had on the dodger board I frequent

the only way this deal could have been better is if we were able to land j. johnson in the deal as well

 

[Villain]

Not done yet:

Ken RosenthalVerified ‏@Ken_Rosenthal

Source: #Dodgers deal for Victorino or Pence possible even if team gets Dempster along with H. Ramirez. LA has been in talks with #Phillies.

 

[Obst]

Not done yet:

Yay. See ya Shane

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Victorino can he had cheap.

Reds turned down Logan Ondrusek for Victorino.

Pirates turned down Brad Lincoln straight up.

A 31 year old with a .700 OPS who makes $10M is not easy to move.

Phillies are trying to at least get a useful RP, but it looks like nobody is biting. They'll have to take some middling minor leaguers and pay most of that salary, I would imagine.

 

[MVPete]

He wasn't producing enough for what he was getting paid. Plus he basically forced their hand (no pun intended) by punching a fan in the dugout, and fucking up his hand, which was the last straw with Ozzie and ownership. This allows them to clear payroll and spend it on someone else this offseason. It's still a huge upgrade for the Dodgers and it's another big name the fans can fall in love with.

 

[Rudi]

lol Marlins.

 

[Villain]

So the Dodgers are all of a sudden rich, and they decide to sign Andre Ethier long term, and bring on Hanley Ramirez, instead of an actual good player? :yao: I'm just glad the Marlins took Eovaldi, so I don't have to worry about Melvin trading for him.

 

 

[Ca$ino]

Im happy about this trade. even if Ramirez continues the way he is currently playing, he is an upgrade over fat ass, useless uribe. he can play SS while gordon gets healthy, but cruz is playing better than uribe so i guess put ramirez at 3rd right away and leave ugly swing, foot in a bucket uribe on the bench for good.

 

[Primetime]

Choate has been he best lefty-on-lefty reliever since 2009, and our lefty bullpen guy (Scott Elbert) has been better against righties than lefties. Hanley is on the right side of 30 and he's a huge offensive upgrade over what we have now at short-stop and third - even if he doesn't return to previous glory. I was afraid we'd get a bum like Aramis Ramirez.

Eovaldi is a decent starter asked to do a lot as a 22-year-old, so it remains to be seen how good he can be (I think his best years will be from the bullpen). I've always liked Eovaldi but we really needed that offensive upgrade.

With Doyer-tinted-glasses I can look at this and hope that the change of scenery energizes Hanley. The Dodgers clubhouse has become incredibly positive since Mattingly took over, and now with the McCourts gone and Magic Johnson being a cheerleader - it'll be hard for Hanley to act like a shithead. Matt Kemp has become a phenomenal clubhouse leader - especially since he used to be a moron getting picked on by Nomar and Jeff Kent.

Yea, Aramis' .321 batting average since the start of June would be horrible.......amirite?

 

[Goober]

 

Yeah because having a player who has consistently outperformed Hanley Ramirez, and is signed for less money is such a bad thing here.

 

[Villain]

Yeah I'd rather gamble on what could be Hanley's prime than what will be Aramis' golden (read: retirement) years. Hanley is 28. He had shoulder problems and off-field problems. Now he gets to have a clean salte with new fans and teammates in an energized clubhouse. If it works out that he gets back to his better years, this is the bargain of the century. If it doesn't and he keeps his form of this season and last, it's still a huge upgrade on what is going on at 3rd and SS right now.

I'm not even going to try to debate you on the meaning of "consistently outperformed" because it's 1) laughable (I lol'd), and 2) you're nerdy enough to dig through stats and find a million and one ways to argue the point, and 3) it doens't fucking matter.

All I know is that the Dodgers are buyers in a division race at the deadline and the Brewers are sellers praying to the Lord Almighty that they can convince any kind of talent to sign this winter. Keep being a nit-picking hater and keep talking shit and see if it makes you feel better when you watch Front Row Amy.

"WHAT A SHITTY FRANCHISE!"

:jonesy:

 

[Villain]

Hanley Ramirez so far in 2013, his age 29 season: 31 games, 109 plate appearances, 41 hits, 9 doubles, 2 triples, 7 home runs, 4 stolen bases, 8 walks, 13 strikeouts. That comes out to .410/.450/.750 with a wOBA of .502. Small sample size? Sure. Fangraphs gives him 1.9 WAR for it. He has an active hitting streak of 18 games, which is the longest for his career.

 

[strahanfan92]

My favorite fantasy player, surpassing Ryu who has fizzled out.

 

[Villain]

Today is the anniversary of this trade. I lifted this from a lengthy writeup:

Ramirez: .313/.367/.542 with 20 homers in 444 PA with Dodgers, 4.7 WAR, two trips to disabled list
Choate: 4.89 FIP in 13.1 IP for Dodgers in 2012, signed shocking three-year deal with St. Louis

Eovaldi: 67/42 K/BB in 18 starts (97.2 innings) with Marlins, missed 2.5 months with shoulder trouble
McGough: 45/13 K/BB in Double-A this year, Southern League All-Star, made Triple-A debut July 12

 

[Goober]

Today is the anniversary of this trade. I lifted this from a lengthy writeup:

I don't think anyone ever argued that the Dodgers gave up a lot (player wise) in order to acquire Hanley. They argued that at the time it seemed like there were better uses for the money they would be paying him.

 

[Villain]

I don't think anyone ever argued that the Dodgers gave up a lot (player wise) in order to acquire Hanley. They argued that at the time it seemed like there were better uses for the money they would be paying him.

Cool.