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Has Matt Ryan Been "Crowned" Too Early?

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Deviant

Yes, please.
I know that most people have fallen in love with Matt Ryan and he looks to be very promising. ESPN has blown him up, people think that he will be the next elite QB in the NFL. He probably will be too.

But, have we done it a bit too early considering that Joe Flacco kid is still hanging around? To be honest, I think Flacco is a better QB than Ryan and I was definitely more impressed with him last year than I was with Ryan. And after watching both games today, I'm even more impressed with Flacco, who had the better performance.

So, just to get everyone's general opinion, has Ryan been crowned too early as elite without really giving any "respect" or "props" to Flacco?
 
Matt Ryan took a team most of us thought would be in rebuilding mode for at least 3 years, to a playoff spot.

He pretty much started where he left off.

I won't put him on my top 10, until I see two full seasons, though.

But it's looking pretty good for Matt Ryan.
 
What was he crowned as? A QB that managed the game amazingly in his rookie season and was able to help an awful team the year before have a huge turn around?

If so, then it's correct. No one has said Ryan is a top five QB or anything.
 
He had a couple bad throws today, but who didn't expect that. Im sure every starting QB look a bit off today. That's what happens in your first game of the season.
 
you guys are acting like Ryan is leagues ahead of Flacco. Flacco is real good too. You cant really tell who is better cause you have no idea what each would do in the others situation.
 
Ryan's more of a prototypical QB, whereas Flacco seems to have more physical tools. He really impressed me against the Bengals last year. He's got some mobility, but let's see if he has the actual skill. Ryan's got the skill more than the talent, if that makes any sense.

And he's got a better offense, threw for only 16 TDs last year. But, whatever. . . His team respects him enough to elect him captain in his second year. There's got to be something to him.
 
houtz said:
I see where you're going with this. A lot of analysts/fans think Matt Ryan is surely one of the best QBs in the league. I believe without Mike Turner, Matt Ryan wouldn't be as far as long as he is right now.

After today I am a believer. I still don't think he's a Top 5 QB but I don't think anyone can argue he's on his way. Matt Ryan is a better QB then Joe Flacco will ever be.
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You say you are a "believer" after what Ryan did today but Flacco's 300 yard, 3 TD performance didn't make you a believer in what he can do too?

Your ass must still be sore from the raping Flacco and Co. gave the Dolphins twice last year.

I don't play the Flacco vs. Ryan stuff because they are both good. I lol @ the people who act like Flacco is some scrub though. He did do something Ryan didn't last year, you know, win in the playoffs.
 
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BazookaJoe5 said:
You say you are a "believer" after what Ryan did today but Flacco's 300 yard, 3 TD performance didn't make you a believer in what he can do too?

Your ass must still be sore from the raping Flacco and Co. gave the Dolphins twice last year.

I don't play the Flacco vs. Ryan stuff because they are both good. I lol @ the people who act like Flacco is some scrub though. He did do something Ryan didn't last year, you know, win in the playoffs.
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Oh please, Ryan would of won playoff games too if he had a defense to back him up like Flacco has. Cmon..
 
Lahey said:
Who's "crowing" Ryan?
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Len B said:
What was he crowned as? A QB that managed the game amazingly in his rookie season and was able to help an awful team the year before have a huge turn around?

If so, then it's correct. No one has said Ryan is a top five QB or anything.
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See houtz's comment below.

houtz said:
I see where you're going with this. A lot of analysts/fans think Matt Ryan is surely one of the best QBs in the league. I believe without Mike Turner, Matt Ryan wouldn't be as far as long as he is right now.

After today I am a believer. I still don't think he's a Top 5 QB but I don't think anyone can argue he's on his way. Matt Ryan is a better QB then Joe Flacco will ever be.
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This is more what I'm getting at. A lot of people have Ryan hyped up to be the next Peyton/Brady and to be an elite QB. I understand, the Falcons went from shit to playoffs. However, I'm just far more impressed with Flacco. I don't understand why Matt Ryan is so blown up (not that I'm saying he is undeserving) and Flacco isn't given as much love and is considered a "manager".

Woy said:
The real question is, where the hell have you been Deviant?
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College. I think I've had more drunk hours than sober hours my first two weeks back.
 
Ryan is very good but let's not act like Flacco isn't at least close to him. Flacco did take his team to the AFC Title game. I don't want to hear any Atlanta fans saying 'well if Ryan had that defense' either. Fact is he doesnt and the NFC was a lot easier to get through than the AFC last season.
 
QUAN aka GOAT said:
Okay first off Matt Ryan is a better QB than Joe Flacco. Also look at the defense Ryan had last year and look at the defense Flacco had? Also U cant go off today cause look at the teams they played. Flacco played the Chiefs while Matt Ryan played the Dolphins a playoff team from last year. So u gotta come with a better argument than that
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I'm not purely going off of today's game. I honestly don't think the Dolphins defense is that much better than the Chiefs. If anything, that game told me that the Falcons' defense is really good. However, Flacco just looks better, in my opinion. He's big, physical, moves around, and is accurate. The Ravens have never been known as a passing offense. Passing offense has never been a strong point of Baltimore, yet Flacco has revitalized it. Flacco could possibly throw for 3,500+ this year and I can't even think of a Ravens QB who has come close to that.

But honestly, what has Matt Ryan done that Joe Flacco hasn't? They both had very impressive regular seasons and not-so-impressive post-seasons (other than the fact that Flacco won two and Ryan none). Both took over teams that need revamped offenses and delivered. So, why Ryan over Flacco?
 
BazookaJoe5 said:
You say you are a "believer" after what Ryan did today but Flacco's 300 yard, 3 TD performance didn't make you a believer in what he can do too?

Your ass must still be sore from the raping Flacco and Co. gave the Dolphins twice last year.

I don't play the Flacco vs. Ryan stuff because they are both good. I lol @ the people who act like Flacco is some scrub though. He did do something Ryan didn't last year, you know, win in the playoffs.
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LOL Flacco played a very little part in beating Miami both times.
 
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