Jeff Fisher needs to be fired, right now.

[Blade]

I am even more confused by this incident now:

Via Twitter

Adam_Schefter: Vince Young didn't throw jersey into stands; he gave it to Titans EVP Don MacLachlans daughter. "She's been very supportive of me," he said.

 

[Goober]

lol at Vince Young's bitch ass denying he threw his pads into the stands.

 

[Woy]

(Sorry if this has been mentioned already)

Lombardi also talked about Young on Bill Simmons podcast and pretty much called him lazy/unprepared for most games.

EDIT: These comments were made last week but it might back up Fisher's decision a little.

Yeah, I have heard these comments. However, even though I feel like I support Young a little too much in the Fisher/Young argument, I got to say that I feel his unpreparedness for games comes from the Fisher/Collins relationship. (By no means do I hate Kerry Collins; guy's one of the best back-up quarterbacks in the league right now and he's a Penn State grad.) In 2009, before the season started, there were reports that Vince went into Fisher's office and demanded his starting job back. Fisher obviously refused and didn't make it a competition in the pre-season, then watched as the Collins-led Titans started the season 0-6. (By the way, what "great" coach starts a season 0-6 and gets a 59-0 asswhooping after returning most of his 13-3 team a year ago?)

Bud Adams had to get Fisher to switch quarterbacks. (You could make the argument that Bud is the reason for all of this, considering he's a Texas guy and wanted Young in the draft, while Fisher wanted Cutler, and Norm Chow wanted Leinart.) Now with the entire team back on his side, Young led them to a 8-2 finish, barely missing the playoffs. This season he came in as the clear-cut starter, then had a nice first game against the Raiders.

The Steelers game is where this mess that we have now began. Young didn't practice during one or two of the days because he was at a McNair lunch/breakfast, something that was related to McNair. Obviously it's been documented that those two had a close relationship and it really hurt him when he was murdered, so he's going to go out of his way to help that family out for the rest of his life. Anyways, he gets benched mid-game after throwing two picks and losing a fumble. Collins comes in and does almost the same thing, then puts up stats against a prevent before the game finally ends.

Young's attitude has always been a problem, I'm not denying that whatsoever. With him though, there's that lack of trust between him and Fisher, which has stemmed from multiple things. It looked like they were fine until that Pittsburgh game, then Young started (at least IMO) to worry about Collins supplanting him as the starter. I think Fisher's bias towards Collins may be a reason why he's been deemed "unreliable" by unknown sources.

Young probably needs a change of scenery, and like I said, I'll support him if he does go somewhere else. But this is the third time Fisher has mishandled his starting quarterback (although the McNair case was more on the front office), and couple that with the barely over .500 record, 5-6 playoff record and nothing to show for a 17 year stretch besides an AFC Championship...I think if anything, both of them need to go and we need a fresh start in Nashville.

 

[Senser81]

I have zero problems with Fisher or his record as a head coach. The NFL is setup in such a way that teams are supposed to hover around the .500 mark over the stretch of a few years. They'll have great seasons, shitty seasons, and seasons in between. It all evens out to a .500 record, or thereabouts.

I do, and have had a problem with that clown Vince Young. He just doesn't get it. I've wanted him gone since he quit in that season opener against Jacksonville a few years ago.

Agree with this. The NFL is setup so that teams go through winning and losing cycles...Fisher inherited a crap franchise and has made them consistently competitive. He's like 30 games over .500, so his teams are usually winners. Even when they aren't as good, they are never an easy win for an opponent. I've always admired the Titans style of play, because they never really have great players IMO. Its funny that people are complaining that Fisher "misuses" Chris Johnson...didn't Johnson set the NFL yards from scrimmage record last year?

I think Fisher is a very good coach...he was able to coax a 13-3 record out of Kerry Collins, and I think he's worked wonders with Vince Young, because Young pretty much sucks. Fisher has basically designed the team so that it covers for Vince Young's suckiness...power running game, attacking defense to force turnovers and give the offense a short field, etc. I think the problem is that Vince Young actually thinks he's "good", whereas if he was on a different team like the Packers, he would have been cut already.

 

[Woy]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5838293

 

[Blade]

Agree with this. The NFL is setup so that teams go through winning and losing cycles...Fisher inherited a crap franchise and has made them consistently competitive. He's like 30 games over .500, so his teams are usually winners. Even when they aren't as good, they are never an easy win for an opponent. I've always admired the Titans style of play, because they never really have great players IMO. Its funny that people are complaining that Fisher "misuses" Chris Johnson...didn't Johnson set the NFL yards from scrimmage record last year?

I think Fisher is a very good coach...he was able to coax a 13-3 record out of Kerry Collins, and I think he's worked wonders with Vince Young, because Young pretty much sucks. Fisher has basically designed the team so that it covers for Vince Young's suckiness...power running game, attacking defense to force turnovers and give the offense a short field, etc. I think the problem is that Vince Young actually thinks he's "good", whereas if he was on a different team like the Packers, he would have been cut already.

Only post that makes any sense in this thread.

Vince Young actually reminds me of a young certain someone who went to jail for killing dogs and illegal gambling across state lines.

 

[mgoblue2290]

Lets trade coaches. The Titans can have Jim Schwartz and the Lions get Jeff Fisher.

 

[Hitman]

Only post that makes any sense in this thread.

Vince Young actually reminds me of a young certain someone who went to jail for killing dogs and illegal gambling across state lines.

Except Mike Vick actually has enough talent to cover up for the lack of brains he showed early in his career and he won a ton of games doing it. As we're seeing now, he was just a 2nd and 3rd read away from being an elite QB in the NFL. Vince Young will never be what Vick is or was before he went to prison.

 

[shag773]

Only post that makes any sense in this thread.

Vince Young actually reminds me of a young certain someone who went to jail for killing dogs and illegal gambling across state lines.

Vince Young is a Tony Dungy intervention away from being an All Pro quarterback..

 

[mgoblue2290]

Vince Young is a Tony Dungy intervention away from being an All Pro quarterback..

Or a prison sentence followed by said Dungy intervention.

 

[shag773]

Or a prison sentence followed by said Dungy intervention.

Yeah, but I wouldn't go with the dog fighting ring. Just to be different, maybe he should get caught running a Taiwanese sweatshop, or a massage parlor....

 

[Hasselbeck]

Maybe you'll get that Jets/Giants Super Bowl you've always dreamed of...oh wait, who would you root for if that happens?

He'd wear layered jersey's .. a Revis and Eli one, with an old Jeff Hardy WWF shirt mixed in there somewhere.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Evidently not throwing the ball 50 times with a QB who has no basic understanding of coverages makes you a bad coach.

I guess if Youngs stat lines were 22/46 2 tds 3 ints Fisher would be credited for trying and Young would be labeled "on the verge".


Noones confusing Fisher for a great coach but he is a damn good one.Few coaches have the balls to buck trend and stick to fundamentals. His teams are consistently sound in tackling , blocking , run schemes and front 7 line play. Not sure how much people want out of head coaches.

Sooner or later the GM needs to stop taking chances on "athletes" with tennis racket IQs like Haynesworth,Pacman,Young that do nothing but set back the franchise.

Glad people brought up Vick. Another low IQ QB who got Reeves fired and set back a franchise by only showing flashes when theyre on the verge of moving on.

Maybe Tennesee would be wise to let go of Fisher so everyone involved can get a fresh start and Tennesee fans can stop bitching about being .500 and start moaning about being 4-12.

 

[BigBucs]

for you crazy stat guys.... when is the last time a white kickoff returner took a KR back for a td before today? The 90s?


There is probably someone im overlooking recently.

Tim Dwight with ATL probably. That was early 2000's I believe.

 

[Rayman]

Tim Dwight with ATL probably. That was early 2000's I believe.

You mean Amendola hasn't? :smh:

VY speaks: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5838293

Shit's kind of sad.

 

[BigBucs]

You mean Amendola hasn't? :smh:

VY speaks: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5838293

Shit's kind of sad.

Oh, and that guy who plays for the Rams. Cowboys should have kept him. Im sure a player or 2 who made the cut over him that year is no longer with your team.

 

[nesper]

i'm sorry was the career of eddie george used as an argument against jeff fisher when the average career of an NFL running back is less than 3 years and george played 9 years never missing a start in Tennessee while gaining 10,000 yards?

 

[Aso]

for you crazy stat guys.... when is the last time a white kickoff returner took a KR back for a td before today? The 90s?


There is probably someone im overlooking recently.

Wes Welker on the dolphins with a punt return td.

 

[Herm]

Titans should hire Al Del Greco as the new head coach. That guy is a golden god.

He's coaching HS Golf in Alabama . It would be hard to pry him from such a great job.

 

[Herm]

I am even more confused by this incident now:

Via Twitter

Vince threw his pads into the stands, he can deny and say well i have my pads all he wants. Yes he has his pads because security guards rushed the stands and retrieved them from fans. Jersey and pads went into the stands, only the pads were retrieved so i believe him on the jersey account.