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Johnny Manziel declares for 2014 NFL Draft

He's a polarizing prospect. He's the kind of guy that can set your franchise up for greatness or get your GM fired in 3 years. Honestly, I wouldn't touch him in this draft class as I feel there are 3 other 1st round talents that won't make a coach and GM afraid to read the newspaper every morning.
 
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I don't care how tall he is, he's still got a tiny frame. I know he has big hands so he'll be able to throw the ball fine, but I simply don't trust him as a decision maker.

Mike Evans bailed him out a ton this season, and those miracle plays which make him such a special player in college will be fewer and far between in the NFL.

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I really think he'll be a boom or bust...no in between. Whoever picks him will either be praised or ridiculed in 2017.
 
He's a New Yorker.

I was shocked when I read that, but I wouldn't have been 5 years ago.

Some "king" you are :bettman:



No excuse. I live in NY and watch every game. I even get the shitty 11 AM Vandy-Mississippi State SEC games on MSG PLUS ... Watch moar games.
No trolling in the sports section guys...comon...move it along....
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stirring the pot...haha.

HOUSTON (CBS HOUSTON) - The Houston Texans (@HoustonTexans) official twitter account has added a new quarterback to their 864 following list. That person is Johnny Manziel (@JManziel2).

The Houston Texans, who have the first pick in the NFL draft, decided that they would start following the Texas A&M Quarterback sometime in the last few days. Even though Johnny ‘Football’ put himself on a twitter silence until the NFL Draft on May 8th.


Having the first overall pick in the draft means a lot to a franchise and the franchise would want to make sure the person they hang their hat on is both physically and mentally capable of doing the job. Twitter is a great way to gauge a person, in a 140 characters. The interesting thing in this story is two fold:

Manziel’s twitter account is not private. The Texans could view any of the tweets the future NFLer puts on the internet.
The Texans have not followed any of the other top prospects linked to them with the number one pick.

Teddy Bridgewater, the Louisville quarterback projected in early mock drafts as the top pick, doesn’t have an official twitter account, so obviously they can’t follow him. But Blake Bortles, the Central Florida QB who ran up the draft boards this season and Jadeveon Clowney both have official (with a check mark) twitter accounts with no follow from the team with the number one pick.

Does this mean that the Texans have narrowed their search before even the NFL Draft Combine later this month and the players pro-days? We don’t know.

The Texans told SportsRadio 610 that it is nothing to read into. The team follows a lot of people, including draft prospects from a few years ago.

If you want to read into it as some sort of unofficial announcement of their draft intentions, then you should expect to see hip hop artist Drake performing at halftime sometime in 2014; the team just added him to their “following” list as well.

There is a connection there as Drake and Manziel have been seen hanging out on New Year’s Day just over a month ago.

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/02/12/houston-texans-start-following-johnny-manziel-on-twitter/
 
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Everyone is having a slow news period right now. Most publications have sent a good portion of their staff to cover the Olympics, we aren't close to the NFL FA period, MLB coverage has yet to begin in earnest and the NHL has sent players to the Olympcs, so the NBA and college basketball is all that is going on right now as far as professional sports. That is why someone even wasted the time "reporting" that story.
 
There is no chance Houston takes Manziel #1 overall. Their new, New England coaches will have no part of Johnny Football. They want a robot who will be who they want him to be. Manziel simply isn't that guy. IMO, they're spreading this rumour to get Cleveland as a willing trade partner. Cleveland flips up from 4 to 1, gets their exciting future, Houston takes a safer pick at 4 and gets extra picks. Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me if Houston just drafted Clowney and hoped for a QB to drop to the 2nd round.
 
Johnny Manziel dares Texans to pass on him

Johnny Manziel dares Texans to pass on him

The Houston Texans picking Johnny Manziel No. 1 overall in the NFL draft would be a great decision, Manziel said, but not picking him would be one the club would live to regret. Especially if the quarterback-starved Jacksonville Jaguars grabbed him with the No. 3 overall pick, and Houston had to play against him as a division opponent.

"It would be the worst decision they've (the Texans) ever made," he told The Houston Chronicle of the possibility. "I'd be in the same division playing against them twice a year. Sorry, but you just turned that chip on my shoulder from a Frito into a Dorito."

Double-dares aside, however, Manziel made it clear that playing for the homestate Texans is what he wants most.

"I want them to say absolutely, without a doubt, with 100 percent certainty, that I'm who they want," Manziel said. "I want everybody from the janitor at Reliant Stadium to the front office executive assistant all the way up to (owner) Bob McNair to say, 'This kid is 100 percent, can't miss. This is who we want being the face of our program. We want the Texas kid staying in Texas and leading the Texans.'"

Manziel played his high school ball in Kerrville, Texas. From a pure distance standpoint, it would be a stretch to suggest that Manziel is a hometown Houston kid. But Texans tend to be a close-knit group. State pride is no small matter, and not much summons Texas state pride as much as its quarterbacks. From Drew Brees to Matthew Stafford, from Robert Griffin III to Andrew Luck, they are everywhere.

But they don't all play in Texas.

"I'm a Texas kid. The state means a lot to me," he said.

Your move, Houston.

Candidly Manziel

In his first public comments since announcing he would leave Texas A&M two years early for an NFL career, Manziel had plenty more to say on a variety of topics, including questions about his maturity, his rookie-year aspirations and more:

» Manziel will be asked plenty about his maturity, reputation as a partier, and off-field decisions by NFL clubs at the NFL Scouting Combine next week. He'll be well-coached for all of it, but was candid about those subjects with reporters who visited his San Diego training site as well.

"I was a kid who made some goofball decisions. That's been part of my journey. Maybe it's part of the whole Johnny Football deal that I'm trying to get away from," Manziel said. "I'm trying to show people I've grown up, and I've learned from my experiences. I feel like you're a stupid person if you continue to make the same wrong decisions. I don't want to hear, 'Oh, anybody in his situation would have been doing the same thing.' I'm 100 percent responsible for my actions."

» The era of NFL rookie quarterbacks apprenticing on a bench for a year or two is disappearing quickly, especially for those drafted in the first round. If Manziel reaches his rookie-year goal, that notion could be buried for good:

"People can call me crazy, and it's not ****iness (but), I'm going to put myself in (position) to win the Super Bowl every single year. A 5-10 guy (Seattle quarterback Russell Wilson) just won the Super Bowl in his second year in the NFL," he said. "That's unreal. I want to be the first rookie to win the Super Bowl."

» Nobody can say Manziel doesn't know his Cleveland Browns history. The club has the No. 4 overall pick, but has historically had plenty of turnover at the quarterback position, and Manziel would love to try to end it if he ends up in Cleveland.

"If something happens, and it's the Cleveland Browns, I'm going to pour my heart out for the Dawg Pound and try to win a Super Bowl for Cleveland," he said. "I don't care if they've had 20 starting quarterbacks since 1999. I'm going to be the 21st and the guy that brought them the Super Bowl."

» Manziel's preparation for the combine includes film study with Kevin O'Connell, who was a New England Patriots backup quarterback when Texans coach Bill O'Brien was an assistant there under Bill Belichick. O'Connell is helping Manziel learn O'Brien's likes and dislikes about offensive football, and he can't wait to talk to O'Brien about it next week in Indianapolis.

"In Indianapolis, I want to be able to sit there and him draw a play on the board and be like, 'Coach, that was your third-and-12 play from the Super Bowl," Manziel said. "You called that on the right hash from the 42-yard line driving in to score to win the game.' I want to blow his lid off when I'm in that situation."
 
There is no chance Houston takes Manziel #1 overall. Their new, New England coaches will have no part of Johnny Football. They want a robot who will be who they want him to be. Manziel simply isn't that guy. IMO, they're spreading this rumour to get Cleveland as a willing trade partner. Cleveland flips up from 4 to 1, gets their exciting future, Houston takes a safer pick at 4 and gets extra picks. Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me if Houston just drafted Clowney and hoped for a QB to drop to the 2nd round.

I strangely.... agree... completely.

Worst kept secret already leading up to the draft is how badly Cleveland wants Manziel.. and with the Rams being more than willing to move down from the 2nd spot.. the Browns may try to move up to #1 to prevent themselves getting jumped by someone where they are now.

Remember this is the same franchise that traded up from 4 to 3 to take Trent Richardson, when there was no way he was getting drafted 3rd overall anyway. So yeah can definitely see Houston moving down to 4 and still getting the guy they want (likely Bortles/Bridgewater)
 
So yeah can definitely see Houston moving down to 4 and still getting the guy they want (likely Bortles/Bridgewater)

I don't even see that happening. My gut tells me there isn't a franchise QB in this draft, especially when Bortles' own coach says so. Picking any of these guys at #4 is still a reach. Manziel I get, because he's marketable and exciting ... the others, not so much. Frankly, I could see Houston taking the right player at #4 and hoping one of the other 1st round QBs falling to their 2nd pick. Heck, some people thought Geno Smith might be a #1 pick last year. IMO, you shouldn't reach for a QB so high just because you have a need there. You have to make sure it's the right QB, because if you reach and are wrong, it's hurts big time. Hell, the Jets and Bills probably should already replace last year's high picks, Minnesota and Jacksonville blew their brains out. I just don't think you should reach for a QB high in the draft, unless you're absolutely sure he's the right one. And none of these guys strikes me as that guy.
 
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