zack54attack
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Album of the year.
I've been listening to this all day.. so good.
I've been listening to this all day.. so good.
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Kanye West & Jay-Z - Watch The Throne
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Rivers17ncsu
Amerson For Thorpe!
pretty solid album, it has its really dope tracks then some tracks I'm not feeling too much. One of the better albums this year.
Hasselbeck
Jus' bout dat action boss
Loved it. Very strong album.
Rivers17ncsu
Amerson For Thorpe!
No Church In The Wild, Liftoff, and Otis are easily my least favorite tracks.
My favorites would be Who Gon Stop Me, Made In America, and Illest Motherfucker Alive.
My favorites would be Who Gon Stop Me, Made In America, and Illest Motherfucker Alive.
Sharkweather
Senior Member
Well this is a complete 360 from the chatbox late last night. I've listened through about three times and I'd have to say it is a really solid album. Still haven't pinpointed my favorites yet, but there are a handful.
zack54attack
New member
Sunglasses and Advil, Last night was mad real...
I guess I will drop the combobreaker on this then.
The album is not good.
Now I guess I will admittedly start by saying I have never been a Jay Z fan. But I am a HUGE Kanye fan. So here goes.
My main problem with the album is substance. There is none. Besides maybe 1 or two tracks(New Day comes to mind), every single god damn song is about money, bitches, swag. I guess I shouldn't have expected anything deeper or meaningful when dealing with these artists, but Kanye on MBDTF at least had some substance to the lyrics. Some story, some emotion.This isn't necessarily a bad thing and it can still be a fun album when done properly. But it wasn't. It felt like a battle about who is cooler than the other, with no punchlines.
To me the album has no flow or direction. Besides the song structure which basically follow the simple pattern of Intro-Jay verse-Kanye verse-Hook-Repeat. I think with two of the biggest and most successful hip hop artists this decade would be able to be a little more creative. Nas and Marley did a better collab album than this last year, and the Blackstar which was made 15 years ago is lightyears better than this. Hell, Bad Meets Evil is better than this. WTT to me sounds like a bunch of singles thrown together like the album is a pop album. It is like a Nicki Minaj album or Kesha album. A collection of singles that will probably get a million views on youtube, but a forgettable album.
Some of the beats are real nice for a little bit. But usually they will get changed a lot by the end of the song. There are some flaws in a couple songs but I assume that is Kanye just going for that "vinyl" sound. I don't like some of the dubstep influences. And some of the samples in the beats kind of ruin it for me.
Jay Z is terrible. Whether it is the hater in me for Jay or my love for Kanye, I feel like Jay brings down almost every song. I am willing to bet that is me just being a hater, but if they had a version of this album without Jay I would probably listen to this again.
When I click on my Kanye playlist on iTunes I am just gonna pretend like this isn't there. This was really disappointing.
The album is not good.
Now I guess I will admittedly start by saying I have never been a Jay Z fan. But I am a HUGE Kanye fan. So here goes.
My main problem with the album is substance. There is none. Besides maybe 1 or two tracks(New Day comes to mind), every single god damn song is about money, bitches, swag. I guess I shouldn't have expected anything deeper or meaningful when dealing with these artists, but Kanye on MBDTF at least had some substance to the lyrics. Some story, some emotion.This isn't necessarily a bad thing and it can still be a fun album when done properly. But it wasn't. It felt like a battle about who is cooler than the other, with no punchlines.
To me the album has no flow or direction. Besides the song structure which basically follow the simple pattern of Intro-Jay verse-Kanye verse-Hook-Repeat. I think with two of the biggest and most successful hip hop artists this decade would be able to be a little more creative. Nas and Marley did a better collab album than this last year, and the Blackstar which was made 15 years ago is lightyears better than this. Hell, Bad Meets Evil is better than this. WTT to me sounds like a bunch of singles thrown together like the album is a pop album. It is like a Nicki Minaj album or Kesha album. A collection of singles that will probably get a million views on youtube, but a forgettable album.
Some of the beats are real nice for a little bit. But usually they will get changed a lot by the end of the song. There are some flaws in a couple songs but I assume that is Kanye just going for that "vinyl" sound. I don't like some of the dubstep influences. And some of the samples in the beats kind of ruin it for me.
Jay Z is terrible. Whether it is the hater in me for Jay or my love for Kanye, I feel like Jay brings down almost every song. I am willing to bet that is me just being a hater, but if they had a version of this album without Jay I would probably listen to this again.
When I click on my Kanye playlist on iTunes I am just gonna pretend like this isn't there. This was really disappointing.
KNUBB
WHITE RONDO
Yeah 3 minutes is excessive and it seems like it lasts FOREVER
dope
Allons-y!
what i don't get is it's not even the last song on the album (yes its the first of the bonus tracks but still)......i can understand if it was the last song cause then its sorta like a secret song, but it just kills the flow of the album imo
Groaned for that part of the post. I wouldn't expect a white boy from Tennessee to like Jay Z to tell you the truth, Lil Wanye or Soilja Boi maybe.
NAHSTE
New member
A few stand out tracks, some really bad ones, and a lot of mediocrity. The overall tone of the album is really annoying as well, just lots of bragging for the sake of bragging. Sometimes that's cool but I miss the substantive 'Ye and Jigga.
The two Ocean tracks are amazing, Murder for Excellence is tight, Who Gon Stop Us is cool, and the rest can go. Should have been an EP.
And the joint with Beyonce is laughably terrible, IMO.
All in all, a 6/10 given the quality these two have given us in the past. I know it's harsh to judge by such lofty standards but if you are gonna be a cocky fuck, at least give us great music. Half of this is mediocre.
edit, because Irish hit it on the fucking head:
Absolutely. These are the guys who gave us songs like Family Business, Through the Wire, Soon You'll Understand, and Meet the Parents. This shit is just fucking surface level "SWAG" which is kind of sad for two dudes who used to be so soulful. If there were more songs like Made in America (amazing, btw), I'd like this, but there's too many of the same generic beats laid over with lazy flows and lyrics containing no substance.
The two Ocean tracks are amazing, Murder for Excellence is tight, Who Gon Stop Us is cool, and the rest can go. Should have been an EP.
And the joint with Beyonce is laughably terrible, IMO.
All in all, a 6/10 given the quality these two have given us in the past. I know it's harsh to judge by such lofty standards but if you are gonna be a cocky fuck, at least give us great music. Half of this is mediocre.
edit, because Irish hit it on the fucking head:
Absolutely. These are the guys who gave us songs like Family Business, Through the Wire, Soon You'll Understand, and Meet the Parents. This shit is just fucking surface level "SWAG" which is kind of sad for two dudes who used to be so soulful. If there were more songs like Made in America (amazing, btw), I'd like this, but there's too many of the same generic beats laid over with lazy flows and lyrics containing no substance.
LiquidLarry2GhostWF
Highwayman
Gonna be honest with ya'll...
Never really got into Kanye. He's very average. Good producer. Less than average lyricist.
Will check this album out today at some point. The last Jay album I enjoyed was the Black Album...we'll see whats up with this one.
Never really got into Kanye. He's very average. Good producer. Less than average lyricist.
Will check this album out today at some point. The last Jay album I enjoyed was the Black Album...we'll see whats up with this one.
NAHSTE
New member
Yeah I was laughing at that song about 10 seconds in. Terrible lyrics, cheesy hook and a fucking :facepalm: of a feature choice.
At least let A. Keys jump on that shit bruhs.
BrntO4Life
My Aunt Ida Smokes.
Honestly, I don't even know if I want to waste my time downloading this.
NAHSTE
New member
Don't. Listen to the strong tracks on youtube and skip the rest. It's 16 tracks and at least 8 of them are mediocre. Another three or four are above average and then you are left with the four stand out ones.
Compared to either of their best work this is a D+ at best.
