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[PC] KG builds a PC

Maynard said:
amd fucking sucks. there is a reason you can get 8 cores for the price of 2.

i would totally get the k unless the cost differential is that great. i love knowing that in a few years i can oc this cpu and be up to 4.5. i dont come close to pushing all 4 cores now though.

i recommend the HAF series for your case. $40 you cant go wrong with coolermaster http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227

i have that same SSD....its fantastic. You might save a few dollars by going with a 1TB or even a 500gb. I have a 1TB and in over a year i still have 471 gb left. with hundreds of shows and movies.

you will end up buying a aftermarket CPU fan, plus internal fans.

idk how it is in canada, but no tax ordering from newegg in US - see if you can get stuff on the free 2 day shoprunner...or see if you can get a 1 month trial of shoprunner for free to save some costs
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This video says otherwisehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE
 
If I were to build one here would be my mini pc build.


CASE: BitFenix Prodigy Mini-ITX Computer Case - Black - $74.99

MOBO: ASRock Z77E-ITX LGA1155 Z77 mini ITX Intel Mobo - $104.99

CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor - $189.99

RAM: Kingston HyperX blu 8GB DDR3-1333 PC3-10600) CL9 - $44.99

PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX600 600 Watt ATX 12V PSU - $64.99

GRAFX: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti Overclocked 2048MB GDDR5 - $309.99

SSD: Samsung 840-Series MZ-7TD120BW 120GB SATA 6.0Gb/s - $109.99

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 3.5" - $79.99

Subtotal $979.92
Tax $34.30
Grand Total $1,014.22
 
yes i am mad cause you cant post links. nice try

and i watched the video and personally will take the word of everyone in the industry over one d bag trying to make a name for himself. there is a reason why amd processors are priced so low and it might have a little something to do with how shitty they perform and their shitty reliability
 
I haven't built a machine in 5ish years and so I haven't kept up with what's out there. But I have a question about having both the SSD and the regular drive. Would it save money to get a combo drive? I wonder what is the largest SSD GB that would come with a combo drive. And many of the combo drives automatically puts the most used files on the SSD portion. Like I said, I haven't researched this cause I'm not looking to build another computer yet. Maybe it makes more sense to have separate drives. I'm just asking the question.
 
Maynard said:
yes i am mad cause you cant post links. nice try

and i watched the video and personally will take the word of everyone in the industry over one d bag trying to make a name for himself. there is a reason why amd processors are priced so low and it might have a little something to do with how shitty they perform and their shitty reliability
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Many years ago I got a non Intel chip (which I swear was an AMD), but I made sure that the motherboard was also compatible with an Intel chip. I did that to save money. The AMD chip was a LOT less expensive, but I left myself open to upgrade to an Intel Chip (P4 hyperthreaded). Yeah, that was back when motherboards only came with one processor. I waited a yearish after the P4's came out and gave the computer a cheap upgrade. It was like having a brand new computer. Upgrading like that made that computer last about 8+ years.

I would get an AMD if I was financially hurting and couldn't afford an Intel chip.
 
bucky said:
I haven't built a machine in 5ish years and so I haven't kept up with what's out there. But I have a question about having both the SSD and the regular drive. Would it save money to get a combo drive? I wonder what is the largest SSD GB that would come with a combo drive. And many of the combo drives automatically puts the most used files on the SSD portion. Like I said, I haven't researched this cause I'm not looking to build another computer yet. Maybe it makes more sense to have separate drives. I'm just asking the question.
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i dont know of a combo drive. i didnt know that existed. i have a 128 gb ssd and a 1 tb hdd. SSD are really coming down in cost to make it more affordable...and an ssd is a must now. i mean, its the single greatest upgrade anyone can have. the speeds are phenomenal
 
So I'm supposed to believe one guy on Youtube when everything else I ever read tells me different? When there are videos debunking that one and pointing out issues with how the results are presented...? Sure...
 
bucky said:
Many years ago I got a non Intel chip (which I swear was an AMD), but I made sure that the motherboard was also compatible with an Intel chip. I did that to save money. The AMD chip was a LOT less expensive, but I left myself open to upgrade to an Intel Chip (P4 hyperthreaded). Yeah, that was back when motherboards only came with one processor. I waited a yearish after the P4's came out and gave the computer a cheap upgrade. It was like having a brand new computer. Upgrading like that made that computer last about 8+ years.

I would get an AMD if I was financially hurting and couldn't afford an Intel chip.
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AMD's value prop has always been "more bang for the buck". There was also another chipmaker out there (Cyrix?) that made some x86 CPU's for a few years in the boom days. My recent build was the first time I have gone Intel since I started building my own rigs back in the mid-90's.

Maynard said:
i dont know of a combo drive. i didnt know that existed. i have a 128 gb ssd and a 1 tb hdd. SSD are really coming down in cost to make it more affordable...and an ssd is a must now. i mean, its the single greatest upgrade anyone can have. the speeds are phenomenal
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The combo drives are primarily used for laptops or people that only have one slot available and want the benefits of the boot up time on an SSD. I wouldn't want to use one in a desktop.
 
MrBill said:
That's plenty to hold your Windows 7 (4.8GB) installation but you are SOL if you want to install Windows 8. I think the minimum install for that is around 16GB even with the hibernation feature disabled. LINUX installs should have plenty of room.
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Seagate says that the new laptop SSHDs provide performance five times that of a regular 5,400rpm laptop drive and offers a boot time of just 10 seconds with Windows 8. The Destkop SSHD also offers performance four times that of a regular desktop hard drives.
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windows 7 took about 8 gb on my ssd - just the home premium version - doesnt allow much room for much of anything else

W7 is a 12 second load time for me with the samsung
 
jms493 said:
If I were to build one here would be my mini pc build.


CASE: BitFenix Prodigy Mini-ITX Computer Case - Black - $74.99

MOBO: ASRock Z77E-ITX LGA1155 Z77 mini ITX Intel Mobo - $104.99

CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor - $189.99

RAM: Kingston HyperX blu 8GB DDR3-1333 PC3-10600) CL9 - $44.99

PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX600 600 Watt ATX 12V PSU - $64.99

GRAFX: ASUS NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti Overclocked 2048MB GDDR5 - $309.99

SSD: Samsung 840-Series MZ-7TD120BW 120GB SATA 6.0Gb/s - $109.99

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 3.5" - $79.99

Subtotal$979.92
Tax$34.30
Grand Total$1,014.22
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Thats a beautiful case.... But it's rather large for a HTPC.
I wish there more options for truly tiny cases.
 
KINGOFOOTBALL said:
Thats a beautiful case.... But it's rather large for a HTPC.
I wish there more options for truly tiny cases.
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There are...just need to do your research. If you don't need a graphics card you can go pretty small. I have seen some videos. If I come across some again I will post them.
 
So since my tower is on it's last legs, It;s time for a new Rig

here's what Im thinking about so far

  • Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
  • G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBXL
  • ASRock B75M-ITX LGA 1155 Intel B75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard
  • OCZ Vertex 3.20 VTX3-25SAT3-120G.20 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

just need to find a gfx card and decide on which Lian Li case to get
 
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