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Kiper: New QB rankings minus Landry Jones

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Another week, another talented quarterback with a first-round grade in the 2012 NFL draft is out of the mix. Landry Jones made it official Thursday afternoon that he'll be returning to Oklahoma for another season, and the ramifications are significant. Jones' announcement also might shift the decision-making process for an SEC quarterback.

Before the update, let me say I applaud the decision of Jones. He has a lot of ability, but struggled in the second half of the season, and made it clear to evaluators that there are things he can work on and skills he can refine with more experience. I fully expect that at this point next year, we'll again be talking about him as a potential high first-round pick, and hopefully with some positive momentum on his side.

That said, let's take a look at how the quarterback class shapes up. As a caveat, I'm not going to rank Arkansas junior Tyler Wilson in the rankings, but will indicate where I think he would fit if he does decide to enter the draft.

1. Andrew Luck
I'll spare you another round of superlatives. You saw again in his final college game what makes Luck so special. Against a talented team that had a month to prepare, and with a lack of major weapons in the passing game, Luck carved up Oklahoma State and completed nearly 90 percent of his passes. He has it all -- smarts, arm strength, poise, pocket awareness, an ability to throw on the move to either side, and a preternatural sense of how to move defenders with his eyes. He can call the plays, and check down when the play isn't there. He's the best quarterback prospect since John Elway. Sorry, I didn't exactly spare you.
Grade: High 1st

2. Robert Griffin III
No quarterback is riding a better wave of momentum, and I fully expect that a team could be willing to move up to as high as No. 2 in the draft to get him. Great arm strength, exceptional athleticism, improved and now elite accuracy on the deep ball, and a ton of experience make Griffin a very appealing prospect. I think he'll particularly shine when teams get to talk to this young man, because he's got the intangibles, the personality and is a proven leader.
Grade: High 1st

3. Nick Foles
He may have lost a little shine this season because of the way the Wildcats performed as a team, but Foles is a really solid developmental prospect. He's a big kid, at 6-foot-5 and 240 pounds, is accurate, moves and throws well to both his right and his left, and has solid mechanics. Questions for Foles start with decision-making, but I think he may have tried to force his throws too often as the team struggled, and the numbers tell some of that story. But you can draft Foles in the late first or early second round and develop him.
Grade: Late 1st to mid-2nd

4. Ryan Tannehill
He's a really intelligent player, with a strong arm. He displays a good grasp of the offense and has come a long way in a short time -- you're talking about a former wide receiver -- and was able to put up good numbers. Tannehill is a guy with more upside than polish, and part of that stems from the fact that I have him at just 19 starts after the bowl game. He had a really rough game against Texas, which looked worse when Griffin went out and lit up the Longhorns soon after, but all in all, I still saw this as a solid growth season. Again, he's not a player a competitive NFL team wants starting games in 2012, but there are skills to work with.
Grade: Early to late 2nd

5. Brandon Weeden

Hey, you subtract one key number, and Weeden jumps up this list. He has a big-time arm, is accurate, plays with poise and can beat you over the top. The bottom line is if you think this is a guy you want to draft and develop for a year, he might not make his first NFL start until he's 30 years old. Let's face it, that's a number nobody will overlook. It says a lot for Weeden's ability that he's in the position to be drafted at all.
Grade: Late 2nd to middle rounds

The question mark
Tyler Wilson, were he to enter the draft, would be at No. 3 on this list for me. This is a kid who just shows great toughness and the ability to be accurate while extending plays and taking hits. He worked behind a subpar offensive line this season, but is willing to look down the barrel and make throws. He slides well to his left or right, has above-average accuracy, and has a good sense of how to calibrate his throws, not overcooking underneath throws, and putting the necessary pace on the ball when he wants to push it down the field. Let's be clear that there's no guarantee at all that Wilson would land in Round 1 were he to stay in the draft. But he does have that kind of potential.

Other quarterbacks you'll see in the mix are Kirk Cousins, Ryan Lindley and BJ Coleman. And there'll be many evaluations and possible shifts to come.

Mel Kiper has been the premier name in NFL draft prospect evaluations for more than three decades. He started putting out his annual draft guides in 1978 and started contributing to ESPN as an analyst in 1984. For more from Mel, check out his annual draft publications or his home page. He can also be found on Twitter here.
 
I think Tyler Wilson should take advantage of Barkley and Jones staying and leave early. This gives him a much better chance to be a first round pick than had those two come out. I really like Wilson, I would much rather take him over Jones right now.
 
Two solid QB prospects and a bunch of shit after that, honestly. Barkley and Jones would have both been number 3 and 4, instead, we have Foles and Tannehill as potential second round picks when they were 3rd-4th rounders if some juniors had come out.
 
Two solid QB prospects and a bunch of shit after that, honestly. Barkley and Jones would have both been number 3 and 4, instead, we have Foles and Tannehill as potential second round picks when they were 3rd-4th rounders if some juniors had come out.
Foles and Tannehill were going to be second rounders regardless. Some people think that Tannehill was gonna be a first rounder even if Barkley and Jones had come out.
 
How would you guys match-up this years QB draft class compared to the past 5 or so?

It seemed to lose a bit of luster once Jones and Barkley decided to stay in college for another season...it seems like a nice batch of QB's...definitely better than last year.
 
Someone is going to reach on Foles for sure, and be incredibly disappointed [ex. Christian Ponder/Blaine Gabbert]
 
Someone is going to reach on Foles for sure, and be incredibly disappointed [ex. Christian Ponder/Blaine Gabbert]

I disagree. He was stuck with an awful team/coach for basically his entire career.

His ability/consistency match up with almost anybody in the nation.
 
I'm looking at the draft order and trying to figure out which teams would even take a QB in the first. Kiper seems to have a lot of guys projected to the first round with not enough teams who have a need. Some of these teams have a need at QB, but wouldn't take one in the 1st round. The only two that should go in the first are Luck and RG3. BTW, with Barkley and now Jones backing out the Redskins are screwed.

1. Indianapolis Colts - Yes
2. St. Louis Rams - No
3. Minnesota Vikings - No
4. Cleveland Browns - Yes
5. Tampa Bay Bucs - No
6. Washington Redskins - Yes
7. Jacksonville Jaguars - No
8. Carolina Panthers - No
9. Miami Dolphins - Yes
10. Buffalo Bills - No
11. Kansas City Chiefs - No?
12. Seattle Seahawks - Yes?
13. Arizona Cardinals - No?
14. Dallas Cowboys - No
15. Philadelphia Eagles - No
16. New York Jets - No
17. Oakland Raiders - Yes
18. San Diego Chargers - No
19. Chicago Bears - Yes? (backup)
20. Tennessee Titans - No
21. Denver Broncos - Yes
22. Cincinnati Bengals - No
23. Cleveland Browns - No
24. Detroit Lions - No
25. New York Giants - No
26. Houston Texans - No
27. Pittsburgh Steelers - No
28. San Francisco 49ers - No
29. Baltimore Ravens - No
30. New England Patriots - No
31. New England Patriots - No
32. Green Bay Packers - No
 
Eh as much as that would make our offense nasty, we need to address other areas first. Going to need a RB after Benson is gone, and our secondary is booty for the most part especially at safety. Chris Crocker :facepalm:
 
Nick Foles? #AREUSERIOUSBRO...never really been impressed. "Nick Foles throws for 400 yards in a losing effort" is the headline of his career. Meh.

I like Weeden though. Dude is old, but he looks like a Carson Palmer clone, to me. I think he's a solid second round choice for a team that wants a QB that can come in and compete right away. His window is small, which is the only reason why he isn't a first round pick. Its obvious he knows his way around a playbook considering he taught his playbook to an NFL guy in Monken. Give him the playbook the second you draft him and he'll be ready for camp.
 
I like Weeden though. Dude is old, but he looks like a Carson Palmer clone, to me. I think he's a solid second round choice for a team that wants a QB that can come in and compete right away. His window is small, which is the only reason why he isn't a first round pick. Its obvious he knows his way around a playbook considering he taught his playbook to an NFL guy in Monken. Give him the playbook the second you draft him and he'll be ready for camp.

Mike Martz just came.
 
Really hope RG III falls to us at four. Would rather not trade up to get him. But we need a replacement for McCoy.
 
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