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Knicks FINALLY acquire Carmelo Anthony (and Chauncey Billups)

I meant as in trading for Melo. I don't want to see Galo/Chand/Fields in another uniform to get him. Just sign him in the offseason.


As a knicks fan i love those guys dont get me wrong, but we would have to give up chandler to get Melo anyway since he will be a unrestricted free agent, we cant sign the both of them even when curry's contract expires at the end of the year.

i just dont wanna lose fields
 
Denver's being too damn greedy. They are already getting Favors and two 1st, plus Harris and all the other spare parts...now they want to add Harrington?...smh.

I hope the deal goes through though.
 
oh shit, lmao......Denver 'threatened' to send Carmelo to the Knicks if the Nets don't stop publicizing their trade negotiations.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ah7jFLgo86RrHL3WMkuJP0.8vLYF?slug=aw-anthonytrade011011

Before resuming trade talks for Carmelo Anthony(notes) on Monday, the Denver Nuggets delivered a stern warning to the New Jersey Nets: Unless the public nature of these trade discussions becomes private, be warned that we will send Anthony to the New York Knicks.

Nothing else the Nuggets could’ve said would send such chills of unease through the Nets, and that’s why Denver made the threat, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Would the Nuggets do such a thing out of spite? Would they take a lesser package out of vengeance? No one could be sure, but it sure delivered one more element of drama and intrigue to these trade talks.

Indeed, the tone of the discussions between the Nuggets and Nets dramatically changed on Monday. Executives went underground with talks, and several agents were frustrated they could no longer get information from the two teams about where the talks stood. Sources still believed the Nets and Nuggets had the framework of a deal, but the talks had retreated from what one source deemed “really close” on Sunday.

Denver pushed a reset button on the three-team, 13-player blockbuster as it wanted more payroll relief and seemed determined to find a way to shed themselves of the four years and $28 million left on Al Harrington’s(notes) contract. For a young Nuggets management team under siege, this threat was something of a show of muscle.

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Small updates (although nothing really new):

- Denver would :fap: if they can turn one of the Nets draft picks into Nicholas Batum from Portland

- ESPN's Chris Sheridan "stands by the report" that Carmelo is steadfast in not wanting to sign an extension with anyone except the Knicks. His source says unless Anthony directly tells New Jersey he will sign with them, you can't expect him to fall in line and sign the extension.

- Denver wants New Jersey to take on Al Harrington's insane multi-year deal.

- New Jersey is confident if they can get the trade done with Denver, Anthony will sign with them. Whether or not they will require his signing to make the trade complete is unknown.

- Denver is talking with other teams as a fail-safe in case the deal with Jersey falls through. Houston is the most popular alternate destination because they appear willing to rent Anthony, then do a sign & trade in the off-season.

- At the end of the day, Melo risks $83 million guaranteed if he does not sign the extension. (Guaranteed unless the new CBA cuts down on it, of course)
 
Frank Isola of the NYDN reports a "source" familiar with the negotiations pegs the Knicks chances of being able to land Melo via trade at 50%, but that nothing will happen anytime soon.

Supposedly (this is news to me), the Nuggets & Knicks have been active in trade talks.

Isola says the Knicks would have to acquire a 1st round pick, accept Al Harrington's bloated contract and give up Eddy Curry's mystical expiring contract plus two of the following three: Danilo Galinari, Wilson Chandler, Landry Fields.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b..._chances_are_5050_of_landing_al.html?r=sports

As far as whether Melo would agree to sign an extension with Jersey, the source says it has not come to that but he would consider it.

DENVER - The Knicks remain very much in the hunt for Carmelo Anthony mostly because New York remains the Denver Nuggets All-Star forward's preferred destination.

A person familiar with the negotiations told the Daily News that talks between the Nuggets and Knicks are ongoing and classified the possibility of a deal with New York at "50-50."

"He'd like to play in New York," said the source, who requested anonymity. "But I don't see anything happening soon."

In order for the Knicks to acquire Anthony, team president Donnie Walsh would have to acquire at least one first-round pick to include in the deal.

The Nets can offer Denver the best package because they have multiple first-round picks.

The dilemma for the Knicks is whether or not to gut their roster for a player they could sign as a free agent after July 1. A deal for Anthony would likely have to include two of these three starters -- Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Landry Fields -- plus Eddy Curry's expiring contract and at least one first-round pick. The Knicks may also have to take on a player with a long-term contract. Al Harrington could be that player.

The Nets are in serious negotiations to complete a deal for Anthony, but the source indicated that no trade is imminent.

As for whether Anthony would sign a three-year, $65 million extension to play for the Nets, the source said "it hasn't gotten to that point yet.

"He's willing to listen to them if he gets close."

Amar'e Stoudemire recently said that he doesn't think the Knicks "need much" to become a contender. In fact, he said on Monday that the team has the pieces to possibly reach the conference finals.

At least one of Stoudemire's former teammates in Phoenix believes that Stoudemire wouldn't be thrilled about adding Anthony while Stoudemire contends that he'd be in favor of adding a superstar.

Anthony was quoted on Monday saying that the Knicks may not want him because they don't want to disrupt their chemistry.

The Knicks are 21-15 heading into Tuesday night's game against the Blazers and are in position to post their first winning season in 10 years.

"Everybody is happy with the team we have and what we're doing," Gallinari said. "We have to control what we can control. We can't worry about what happens on the outside."
 
There's no way I'd do that if I'm the knicks...I can't have my two best players hogging the ball down by the wing spots and Melo LOVES it there...Amare likes it there.

Giving up a 1st, Danilo/Chandler/Fields? and a 1st? nahhhh...
 
Isola says the Knicks would have to acquire a 1st round pick, accept Al Harrington's bloated contract and give up Eddy Curry's mystical expiring contract plus two of the following three: Danilo Galinari, Wilson Chandler, Landry Fields.

gtfo, I don't mind one going but two is highway robbery.
 
I'm torn on this. As a Knicks fan I'd love to see Melo come in and team up with Amare but on the other hand I dont want to see this destroy the chemistry we already have. Finally there is excitement back at the Garden and for the 1st time in years we may actually see playoff basketball.
 
Melo has to realize that he has total control of this situation. He has to realize that Knicks fans are finally excited about the Knicks again and because of that if a trade for him guts the team the expectations for him are going to be crazy. He'd be better off just playing the season out where ever he is and letting the Knicks now through the proper channels that he's going to sign with them in the summer, so don't trade for him and thus gut the team.
 
Sources: Knicks reach out to Grizzlies

The New York Knicks have reached out to Memphis about participating in a three-team deal that would send Grizzlies guard O.J. Mayo to Denver and Carmelo Anthony to New York, according to league sources.

Talks are in the infant stages and nothing is imminent, but the discussions are a sign of the Knicks' increased aggressiveness in trying to trade for Anthony.

Emboldened by their belief that Anthony will refuse to sign a three-year, $65-million contract extension with the New Jersey Nets, the Knicks have stepped up their efforts to bring the Nuggets star to New York.

The Nets, Nuggets and Pistons are still in discussions on a trade that may involve more than 13 players and hope to have it wrapped up by next week, the Bergan (N.J.) Record reported.

The Knicks have tried to engage Denver in trade talks all season, but the Nuggets, unmoved by the players New York has to offer, have been unwilling to partake in significant discussions. Sources, however, say that is changing as the Nuggets themselves wonder whether Anthony is willing to go to New Jersey.

The Knicks understand they need to recruit another trade partner or two in order to put together a package Denver would be interested in, and that's their motivation for inquiring about Mayo. It is not clear at this point whether Denver is actively involved in the talks with Memphis.

On Thursday night, Knicks president Donnie Walsh denied to the New York Daily News the team was in talks with the Nuggets or the Grizzlies.

Mayo, who has had a disappointing and controversial season in Memphis, is on the trading block, and the Knicks' hope is that he would satisfy Denver's desire for a promising young prospect. Though the third-year guard is coming off the bench and scoring less than 13 points a game this season, Mayo averaged 18 points over his first two years.

While Mayo, who has one year, $5.6 million remaining on his contract after this season, does not have the leverage to stop a possible deal, sources say he would not be happy with a trade to Denver.

After nearly three years of rebuilding in Memphis, Mayo is looking to go to a winning situation, according to the sources. He understands without Anthony, Denver would be starting over.

Mayo, however, would like to go to the Knicks.

The Knicks' only interest in Mayo is to aid them in acquiring Anthony.

The Knicks will also need at least one first-round draft pick to grab Denver's attention, and New York is confident it can get such a pick for Anthony Randolph from one of several clubs. Sources say Indiana was willing to trade a first-round pick to New York for Randolph last summer.

Any Knicks package for Anthony would also likely include some combination of Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari or Landry Fields.

While the Nuggets weren't impressed with those names early in the season, their strong play during the Knicks' resurgence has upped their value, according to sources.

Meanwhile, the Nuggets continue to discuss a possible three-team deal with the Nets and Pistons. The Nets would receive Anthony, Chauncey Billups and Detroit's Richard Hamilton while Denver would get Nets rookie Derrick Favors, Devin Harris, two first-round draft picks and several other minor players.

But even if the clubs agree to a deal, Anthony could kill it by refusing to sign an extension to play long-term in New Jersey. Several sources say Anthony does not want to play in New Jersey and has thus far given no indication that he would sign such an extension.

Anthony's agent, Leon Rose, has been pushing for a deal with New Jersey and, in an effort to get the star to sign off on the trade, several people have been telling Anthony that New York doesn't want to break up its current team to get him, according to sources.

Sources say that's why Anthony made the curious comment on Monday in which he wondered whether the Knicks even wanted him.

"New York is playing well right now. I don't think they're looking at me," Anthony said. "They wouldn't want me to come in there and mess what they have up. That's what I've read."

But the Knicks are very interested in Anthony. The club's preference would be to sign him as a free agent next summer and thereby keep their current roster intact.

But in that scenario, Anthony would not receive the $65 million extension and with a new collective bargaining agreement on the horizon, he would risk losing millions of dollars by entering free agency.

If Anthony eventually nixes a move to New Jersey and tells Denver he will only sign an extension with New York, the Nuggets would likely either trade him to the Knicks or a club like Houston that would be willing to trade for him without his signing an extension.

Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6019859
 
gtfo, I don't mind one going but two is highway robbery.

I wouldn't make that move at all. I know you need two superstars to be a legit contender, but we can get Carmelo in the off-season. I say we get a big man and a backup PG for now and ride out the rest of the year.

Walsh isn't Isiah, so I'd be shocked if he pulls the trigger.
 
David Aldridge reports according to two NBA sources, the Nets/Nuggets/Pistons will finalize the Melo deal next week.

Whether Carmelo signs the extension is unknown.


As for the Knicks, one place (think it was the Post) mentioned that Walsh wants to retain as many assets as possible so he can do a sign and trade with one of the RFA centers (Gasol, Jordan) in the off-season. So that could be a reason they don't trade Anthony Randolph.
 
David Aldridge reports according to two NBA sources, the Nets/Nuggets/Pistons will finalize the Melo deal next week.

Whether Carmelo signs the extension is unknown.


As for the Knicks, one place (think it was the Post) mentioned that Walsh wants to retain as many assets as possible so he can do a sign and trade with one of the RFA centers (Gasol, Jordan) in the off-season. So that could be a reason they don't trade Anthony Randolph.

The Nets would be insane to make that deal without the extension.
 
Very Early Saturday updates:

-Pretty much everyone anticipates the Nets/Nuggets/Pistons pulling the trigger over the course of the next 7 days

-The million dollar double question is A) when push comes to shove, will Melo sign the extension with Jersey and B) will the Nets agree to the trade without Melo signing the extension

-Reports say Pokrov (sp?) doesn't care if he doesn't sign it right away, feeling he can convince Melo to stay between now and the summer

-Melo's agent was at MSG Friday night during the Knicks/Kings game, although the agent does rep some Kings players and Eddy Curry. Reports say the agent did speak with Knicks GM Donnie Walsh.

-Aside from the Melodrama (see what I did there?), reports say the Knicks will likely trade Anthony Randolph for a first round draft pick at some over the next couple of weeks. Potential landing spots include Indiana, Minnesota, Portland and even Houston among others.


My personal opinion:

-The biggest trade in NBA history goes down, but Melo does not sign the extension anytime soon. Jersey will take the gamble because let's face it, they don't have shit regardless besides losing seasons and Favors' potential.

-The Knicks hope Melo ends up opting out so they can sign him. Whether Melo eventually re-ups with Jersey so he can make the guaranteed $65 million+, only he knows.

-Knicks are satisfied with taking their assets with them into the off-season (EDDY CURRY'S FAT ASS FINALLY COMING OFF THE BOOKS, the first rounder acquired for Randolph) and acquire a center while giving Chandler a new deal (depending on what goes down with Melo).

FYI, Knicks current draft pick status as it stands now:

-2011 1st Rounder: Houston can swap first rounders as long as NY's pick isn't #1 overall.
-2011 2nd Rounder: Belongs to Lakers

-2012 1st Rounder: Belongs to Houston (top 5 protected through 2015)
-2012 2nd Rounder: Belongs to Phoenix (as long as it is not in the top 55 overall picks, otherwise, NY maintains the pick)
-2012 2nd Rounder: Own Golden State's Pick

-2013 1st Rounder: NY has their own & may not trade it (cannot trade first round picks in consecutive future years)
-2013 2nd Rounder: Own Golden State's Pick
 
Man, Melo would be nice for the Knicks, but I really want a center. If we could get Emeka or Kaman, that would be awesome. I could see Sterling trading a player he heckled a couple of weeks ago for Curry's expiring contract and Anthony Randolph.
 
If the Nets make that deal without the extension in hand...I question their sanity.

btw - I'd take Harrington's deal if it came with Billips and Rip.

A starting line up of...

C - Lopez
PF - Harrington
SF - Melo
SG - Rip
PG - Billups

Gets us to the playoffs and a second tier team in the East...a little behind Chicago.
 
If the Nets make that deal without the extension in hand...I question their sanity.

btw - I'd take Harrington's deal if it came with Billips and Rip.

A starting line up of...

C - Lopez
PF - Harrington
SF - Melo
SG - Rip
PG - Billups

Gets us to the playoffs and a second tier team in the East...a little behind Chicago.

That gets you to the playoffs, sure, but second tier team behind Chicago? Please. Rip is completely washed up and Harrington is a no defense all offense guy.

Nets would be a 6 or 7 with that lineup.
 
Carmelo Anthony's "ultimate dream" would be to play in New York, the Denver Nuggets forward said Friday in an interview with ESPN's Colleen Dominguez.

Anthony and his wife, LaLa Vazquez, are from the area.

"That's like the ultimate dream at the end of the day," Anthony said. "Who wouldn't want to go back home to play?"


Anthony said he was surprised when the Nets emerged as possible trade partners with the Nuggets.

"I [had] never really thought about the New Jersey Nets," he said, before allowing that he has subsequently considered the possibility.

"I see what the future holds, they'll move into Brooklyn. ... Me going back home to Brooklyn, opening that arena ... I think about all that stuff."

But Anthony also said, "I haven't even thought about [signing an extension with the Nets]."

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6023180
 
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