Kyle Orton's contract extended through 2011

[BroncoBlue]

No dumervile, no nolan, no marshall, not a great run game, a dink and dunk type of QB coming off a 2-8 finish to your previous season. The Broncos have fail written all over them. It's gonna be like the Lions from 07 to 08 (except to a lesser degree). Lions started 07, 6-2 and ended with a 1-7 record with a total record of 7-9 then bombed next season. Same thing will happen to the Broncos (and again, to a lesser degree, they won't go 0-16).

:dontknow: 7-9 tie for second in AFC W with Oakland? Chiefs finish 4-12. Chargers go 13-3?

You guys definitely will be surprised at how explosive Kyle Orton will be in this offense. Now don't get me wrong he's no Manning or Brady, but I definitely think he can have a similar year to 2008 Matt Cassel. Oh and rest assured you will see McDaniels unleash Orton's deep ball this year. The only thing working against Orton is a shitty backfield. You guys laugh now at the 9 mil the Broncos gave Orton, but it's going to be even funnier when in the next two years Orton plays himself into a Matt Casselish contract for 2012.

Oh and the Dumerville injury isn't as HUGE as everyone thinks... Dumerville was a pass rush specialist not overall Great player. Him being out will hurt the D but not break it. The bigger issue that will factor in to wins and losses for this team is at RB.

 

[Bear Pand]

Orton barring injury = 4000 yard 25 TD season. Choo Choo get on the train now.

 

[BroncoBlue]

Orton barring injury = 4000 yard 25 TD season. Choo Choo get on the train now.

Orton's already catching up on him Awesomeness sleep:

Hell YA!!

We need an Official Orton Tracker Thread... Sticky that bitch too!

 

[Sigona]

Kyle Orton has spent five-million dollars of that contract to purchase a bionic arm that will allow him to pass through defenders bodies and into the hands of his receivers. True story.

 

[Bear Pand]

Orton's already catching up on him Awesomeness sleep:

Hell YA!!

We need an Official Orton Tracker Thread... Sticky that bitch too!

You already know Ortons been downing bottles all offseason to get ready.

 

[Fox1994]

You guys definitely will be surprised at how explosive Kyle Orton will be in this offense. Now don't get me wrong he's no Manning or Brady, but I definitely think he can have a similar year to 2008 Matt Cassel.

You mean throw dink-and-dunk screen passes to pad stats and make him look amazing, parlay it into an amazing contract, and not do shit the next year?

Oh and rest assured you will see McDaniels unleash Orton's deep ball this year. The only thing working against Orton is a shitty backfield. You guys laugh now at the 9 mil the Broncos gave Orton, but it's going to be even funnier when in the next two years Orton plays himself into a Matt Casselish contract for 2012.

As long as he earns it instead of having it unnecessarily thrown his way.

Oh and the Dumerville injury isn't as HUGE as everyone thinks... Dumerville was a pass rush specialist not overall Great player. Him being out will hurt the D but not break it. The bigger issue that will factor in to wins and losses for this team is at RB.

Dumervil had 17 sacks last year. Even if he is a specialist, he's a hell of a specialist...

Orton's already catching up on him Awesomeness sleep:

Hell YA!!

We need an Official Orton Tracker Thread... Sticky that bitch too!

lol. Can we not?

 

[Bear Pand]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AuF7kxrklk04DI8XqxyK6HxDubYF?slug=lc-improvedorton082310

tragic

To many, the thought of Orton being “the answer at QB” must seem like a joke. In his five-year career he has hardly inspired. In Chicago he couldn’t beat Rex Grossman(notes) to be the Bears starting quarterback. When the Broncos were trying to trade disgruntled quarterback Jay Cutler(notes) and picked Orton over then Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell(notes), many in the Redskins organization soured even more on Campbell. If Denver wanted Orton over Campbell, then how bad must Campbell be?

lol

I hope Campbell sticks around in Oakland long enough to catch all these Ls Ortons about to throw at him.

 

[dave]

Orton is a decent QB and a consistent winner.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I don't care what he stats looked like last year, Kyle Orton is awful. He struggles completing anything beyond 15 yards, and will never be the type of player who can take a team to the next level. He's easily in the bottom third of NFL starters, and would make an average backup at best. Paying that sack of shit $9M is laughable, but this is the Broncos, who fired one of the best coaches in the business, hired a man child, and drafted a gimmick player in the first round.

Let's face it, no team is going anywhere with Kyle f'n Orton behind C.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Orton is a decent QB and a consistent winner.

His 70-something lifetime QB rating makes 1970's QB's blush, and your "consistant winner" barely has a .500 record as a starter since he "led" the 2005 Bears with his super 9/13 TD/INT ratio, 50% completion percentage, and god awful 50-something QB rating, which led to him promptly losing his job to REX GROSSMAN, the same REX GROSSMAN who is buried so deep on the bench these days he may never take another meaningful NFL snap. And you could argue Grossman is a better player than Orton.

Simply put, Orton sucks.

 

[dave]

I didn't say he's great, but teams could do a lot worse than Kyle Orton.
And this is simply a two-year bridge while they find out if Tim Tebow can be the face of the franchise.
IMO, Tebow will do it.
The guy's work ethic and character are off the charts and he's been a winner at every level.

I think you're being a bit hard on Orton, Warner.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I didn't say he's great, but teams could do a lot worse than Kyle Orton.
And this is simply a two-year bridge while they find out if Tim Tebow can be the face of the franchise.
IMO, Tebow will do it.
The guy's work ethic and character are off the charts and he's been a winner at every level.

I think you're being a bit hard on Orton, Warner.

See, I dont think you can do much worse. I think Orton is as bad as you can get with a starting QB.

I like Tebow, I think he'll carve a niche, but paying $9M for a dime-a-dozen guy like Orton to be the placesitter is terrible money management. You can get any number of scrubs (David Carr, Ryan Fitzpatrick, et al) who can give you what Orton gives you, and go 7-9 with at a fraction of the cost. It makes no sense.

 

[dave]

I always hated what happened to David Carr in Houston.
Maybe I have a soft spot in my heart for him because I had the Texans in a Madden league, but I always thought Carr had the tools, but the Texans let him down with one of the worst offensive lines in NFL history.
Yeah, he had a bit of a goofy throwing motion, but with the right team from day one, I think Carr would have been a damn good NFL QB.

 

[Cody]

Looks like this holds off Tebow Era.

 

[ram29jackson]

Orton is a reliable Pro QB. Evry Pro scout says as much.

He is just considered a -sell- in Fantasy league terms.....

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Orton is a reliable Pro QB. Evry Pro scout says as much.

He is just considered a -sell- in Fantasy league terms.....

57.8 76.9
59.8 75.2
57.8 67.7
56.3 69.2
59.2 75.6
61.3 77.9


Above is the career Completion % & QB Rating of 6 current NFL QB's:

Kyle Orton
David Carr
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Alex Smith
JP Losman
Trent Edwards

Can you match the stats to the QB? All 6 of these guys have had incredibly similar careers, in both size & scope. They are all fringe starters, and none of them would be considered "reliable pro QB's". Orton is no better than these bums, he's in the same class. These QB's are best served as backups, and if they are starting for your team, you are likely going nowhere.

...and none of them deserve $9M per year.

 

[ram29jackson]

while wouldnt defend those guys as great, i dont care about QB rating on the whole. Theres too many factors it cant involve.

Orton- 21 TDs and 3,800 yards last year is nothing to sneeze at

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

while wouldnt defend those guys as great, i dont care about QB rating on the whole. Theres too many factors it cant involve.

Orton- 21 TDs and 3,800 yards last year is nothing to sneeze at

While I agree that QB Rating has its flaws, it does paint a picture and I used it to illustrate the class of QB Orton is a part of.

Orton had a nice statistical season, but anyone who watched him without homer glasses knows he wasnt as good as those stats. His team started 6-0 (mostly smoke & mirrors) and missed the playoffs. What else needs to be said?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

And say what you want about QB Rating, but nobody in this era with a QB Rating in the high 60 to mid 70 range is anything more than a fringe starter.

 

[ram29jackson]

While I agree that QB Rating has its flaws, it does paint a picture and I used it to illustrate the class of QB Orton is a part of.

Orton had a nice statistical season, but anyone who watched him without homer glasses knows he wasnt as good as those stats. His team started 6-0 (mostly smoke & mirrors) and missed the playoffs. What else needs to be said?

what more needs to be said? the other 10/21 guys can be just as much to blame in the multiple, instantaneous situations that happened on the field.

Like they say- The QB gets too much blame and or praise. The team on the whole is considered old at this point. Cutler probably left at the right time haha